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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 12:49 PM
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The workaround to trade at another dealership is pretty easy.

In either case, you do the buyout, pay the taxes, and trade. Same if you trade for another Mercedes, or if you want to own the leased car going forward.

The new dealer knows how to handle that.
Yes, but it’s that pay the taxes piece that hurts. In Virginia, if you sell an entire off lease vehicle to a 3rd party you don’t have to pay sales tax, the buyer does. Same with a trade to a dealer. Normally you can get more from a third party vice the dealer…so if you get locked into having to sell to a dealer you lose leverage….most only pay wholesale or just a little over.
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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TexAg91
Yes, but it’s that pay the taxes piece that hurts. In Virginia, if you sell an entire off lease vehicle to a 3rd party you don’t have to pay sales tax, the buyer does. Same with a trade to a dealer. Normally you can get more from a third party vice the dealer…so if you get locked into having to sell to a dealer you lose leverage….most only pay wholesale or just a little over.
Anytime a vehicle is purchased out of lease, sales tax must be paid. In all cases, buying it out of lease can only be done by the lessee. You can't sell it to a third party until you buy it, which time you pay the taxes, but only on the amount over the residual value.

And that third party will pay taxes on the full amount of the purchase, unless it's a dealer.
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If you're trading it in, the amount you owe or any lease status is irrelevant.
If there's hesitation from the new F&I department, they're just incompetent.

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Old Dec 15, 2023 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Anytime a vehicle is purchased out of lease, sales tax must be paid. In all cases, buying it out of lease can only be done by the lessee. You can't sell it to a third party until you buy it, which time you pay the taxes, but only on the amount over the residual value.

And that third party will pay taxes on the full amount of the purchase, unless it's a dealer.
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If you're trading it in, the amount you owe or any lease status is irrelevant.
If there's hesitation from the new F&I department, they're just incompetent.
In Virginia, when you lease a vehicle you pay tax on the full sale price up front (which sucks); but you don’t have to pay it again if you buy the vehicle at lease end.
  • Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax (MVSUT) is normally collected when titling the vehicle in the lessee’s name; however, if the lessee is the original person who paid Sales and Use Tax (SUT) on behalf of the lessor he may be exempt from paying it again. The lessee must present proof that the payment was made. Additionally, the vehicle must be either acquired directly from the lessor or from the selling dealer who leased the vehicle to the lessee initially. Purchases made through another dealer will disqualify the lessee from receiving the exemption from Motor Vehicle Sales and Use Tax (MVSUT). The title must include an individual named on the lease. The lease must be to a person or persons, and it shall not include any commercial entity as a lessee.
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Kinda like I said, but VA calls it a use tax.

The lessee pays the tax monthly, as part of the monthly payment.
Any amount over the residual hasn't been taxed, so buying it out of lease requires payment on the difference.
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Old Dec 16, 2023 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Kinda like I said, but VA calls it a use tax.

The lessee pays the tax monthly, as part of the monthly payment.
Any amount over the residual hasn't been taxed, so buying it out of lease requires payment on the difference.
Not in Virginia, elsewhere you are correct. In VA you pay the full tax upfront, so it is added to the vehicle gross capital cost. Will never lease another vehicle in VA — been there, done that, nope.

….and you also pay yearly personnel property tax (1/2 Blackbook MSRP x 6%) for Spotsylvania county ( varies by country).

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For those concerned with "tax credit". Mercedes-Benz does not qualify for a $7500 tax credit to be claimed on your taxes on the purchase of any EV or plugin hybrid. However if the vehicle is lease Mercedes-Benz is giving you 7500 "lease cash". It is not an tax credit nor is it a rebate it is lease cash. It is a program controlled by Mercedes-Benz. The reason we do not qualify for a tax credit is because our vehicles main source of manufacturing is not completed with USA components or manufacturing. On GLEs there is no penalty to purchase the vehicle outright via cash or finance.
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