mikapen

Thanks.
I don't fully understand your first paragraph.

But regarding a pirated database and my Launch question, are you saying that a Mercedes subscription through LAUNCH is pirated?

Where do Independents get their databases? Can they only get pirated versions?

What do you use?

trigital

There is no real Mercedes subscription othe than Xentry. Any other tools only connect to their data base. In the case of Autel or Launch the data base is a pirate data base, ... based on various forums ( like MHh for example ) where users post different codings from different situations. Chinese, as all their programs, only spy and copy. Later they use only a "prediction" to match some of the codings from the data base. Something like 221.156 and they search for a 350 221 and match a coding that looks appropriate.

My statement regarding Mercedes Server is simple.

There is only one Mercedes Server for all the world.

All codings or any official repairs are automatically documented into the official Mercedes data base. Is named VEdok.

Any dealership can access this database and can show you all software updates, codings or modifications that any Mercedes from any part of the world receive it.

That's why I said, do anything with any Chinese tool and after verify into VEdok. This will demonstrate that the Mercedes "license" is false.

mikapen

From what you're saying, it sounds like everything other than a dealership won't have a real database.
And that Mercedes won't sell/rent their database to anyone, period.

So your implication is that all independents, licensed body shops and other service centers that rely on code reading instruments, are all using fake data.

And that the only place I can get my rain sensor calibrated is at a dealership.
And that Benzninja and RG automotive are fakes.
That sounds like a "right to repair" violation, at least in Massachusetts.

What instrument do you use?

trigital

Right to repair is mandatory for Mercedes in USA, like in the EU.

Not for free of course, but any workshop can receive the official Xentry system from MBUSA. This includes of course access to correct data base updates, upgrades, flashing, SCN, etc and do not allow any non trained user to make official modification ( Mercedes has a chapter named Retrofit and Modification). Also with the official system is quite impossible to make non official modification.

I use all systems available,

mikapen

You're being very surreptitious. It's like I'm trying to interrogate a spy who refuses to give a straight answer.

So these are more direct:

Is a Launch Creader guaranteed to be a pirated database?

Is iCarsoft guaranteed to be a Chinese pirated database?

Is there any service instrument company that can buy or rent the database from Mercedes? Who?

Name an instrument that you use that accesses the Mercedes database directly.

Are Benzninja and RJ automotive fakes?

TIA

trigital

No need to interogate me.

I am in the EU, I use Xentry official from Mercedes and rest of the offline Mercedes coding programs like any coder.

Autel and all the rest use pirate data base, as I personally verified in the Mercedes system as they don't leave any log.
So, any Chinese claims about,"online" is false if you translate "online" as any connection with Mercedes official.

You can verify if you want, at any dealership. No need to believe me, do any flash or SCN with any tool other than Xentry and after that verify the VEdok system at dealer.

I have no connection with any of the ones you mentioned, maybe they use the same system like any other coder.
We are professionals.

mikapen

I give up. Surreptitious it is.
But it's been a good lesson on how to divert a question.
Are you a politician?

This entire thread has been about coding headlights and sources.

It sounds like you are calling "BS" on all the services mentioned above, including the ones you haven't heard of. Why is that, and why are the only one that's doing it correctly?

trigital

No, I am an engineer with 26 years experience only for Mercedes Benz.

Maybe because I don't use Chinese tools and only make repairs after clients "flash online", my opinion here can be useful.
For my business... Chinese tools put bread on the table

mikapen

Clear as a bell.
So your tools are an International secret. Impressive.

Should we play another "guess the tool" game?

trigital

I already told you. Xentry and the rest of Mercedes offline programs like any coder. Vediamo, DTS Monaco, etc

tre567

Has anyone here managed to enable ILS+ on their v167 GLE using a Launch CREader, or similar tool? I cannot seem to find any tutorials pertinent to our cars as the options are different in the popular Youtube videos.

jkaetz

If it could be done with Autel, Launch, etc... the services to enable ILS+ and other things wouldn't be $$$$. Everyone would simply buy the tool and do it themselves.

mikapen

Even if I had the capability, I wouldn't do it cuz I would likely brick my car.

trigital

Capability - real engineering software from MB or the knowledge?

mikapen

I don't have either.
I was a certified tech for too long to mess with something I haven't been extensively trained on.

trigital

I am sure that you will need less than a day to learn how to do basic/, simple codings like ILS with any MB engineering SW.

The main advantage over any Chinese tool is that the MB software will signal before opening any modules if something is not OK and you can change the approach. Also, those software's can save the original configuration and if something happens you can always upload the original coding.

mikapen

Thanks for the encouragement. It's not a priority at this point.

However, my original question still exists.

Is anybody aware of a download occurring this month?

stktyz33

When you say "real engineering software", do you imply that you have the actual licenses and manufacturers authorization to use this software and modify the cars? I often see people refer to "genuine MB software" and then use cracked Xentry/DTS Monaco/Vediamo. While it may functionally work the same, excluding online only functions, it's not "genuine" nor "official" anymore. Changes made via such software have no manufacturers supports and not covered by the warranty - you brick it, you fix it. Having that said, some independent shop do buy official Xentry and pay licensing costs, however, you can't code "features" like ILS+ using it.

So, yes, there is a lot of talk about coding and genuine software but always omissions about its licensing or manufacturers authorization.

trigital

Exactly, like absolutely all others coders I am talking about cracked version of the MB programs.