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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
The additive package in premium fuels is superior - that alone leads me toward the extra expense, since I expect to keep the car for 90k miles at least.

I also go out of my way for Shell, because I get better MPG (+2 is normal) and seat of the pants performance. (Shell is getting out of the gas station business, according to a retired Shell engineer I know - drat.)

If I have a loaner car that I have long enough to run through a full tank there is a MORE THAN SIGNIFICANT difference when I fill its tank with Premium. It's like a different car altogether.

It does net out to about $60/1000 miles increased cost, but I've made a big investment in the car and I want to take care of it. (At current prices.)

I also came from Depression Era parents, but I save my money by paying saving up to make a cash purchase, and giving my steed the best care possible. My Depression Dad adopted my practice when he saw how long my cars last. My best - 700,000 miles - an FJ45 Land Cruiser pickup, 1 of less than 500 solid new in the US.

I also buy the best paint for my house and skip the builder-grade flooring, but that's just me.
Everyone makes their own decision.

I note you drive a GLC300. There is a world of difference between the 4 cylinder in your car and the V6 twin turbo in my E450: I have driven the GLC 300 as a loaner to Vermont and back for skiing. Assuming it had premium when I picked it up, I then refilled it with regular and could not notice any difference.

House paint: Here there is a noticeable difference and I agree I buy the best paint I can. The difference is $10 a quart, 9 quarts, $90 and the paint can last 7 to 9 years instead of 3 to 5 years for the cheaper paint so in the long run it is cheaper. (labor is the big expense, not the paint and labor is the same whether you are using cheap or expensive paint)

Assuming 10K miles per year and 20 mpg, that is 500 gallons per year. Using premium at $.80 more per gallon, that is $400 more, 5 years $2,000. If you feel the performance and extra mpg is worth it, go for it. But $2000 over five years is a different world than $90 for painting a house!

Just my $.02
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
Everyone makes their own decision.

I note you drive a GLC300. There is a world of difference between the 4 cylinder in your car and the V6 twin turbo in my E450: I have driven the GLC 300 as a loaner to Vermont and back for skiing. Assuming it had premium when I picked it up, I then refilled it with regular and could not notice any difference.

House paint: Here there is a noticeable difference and I agree I buy the best paint I can. The difference is $10 a quart, 9 quarts, $90 and the paint can last 7 to 9 years instead of 3 to 5 years for the cheaper paint so in the long run it is cheaper. (labor is the big expense, not the paint and labor is the same whether you are using cheap or expensive paint)

Assuming 10K miles per year and 20 mpg, that is 500 gallons per year. Using premium at $.80 more per gallon, that is $400 more, 5 years $2,000. If you feel the performance and extra mpg is worth it, go for it. But $2000 over five years is a different world than $90 for painting a house!

Just my $.02
Your loaner GLC most likely had regular gas, from borrowers' cheaping out, plus it takes a tank or two to get the crud out, so you probably wouldn't have noticed much improvement with the correct fuel, had you used it.

My cost estimate is for my GLE53, figured at about 22mpg. (from my post above, "It does net out to about $60/1000 miles increased cost, but I've made a big investment in the car and I want to take care of it.") That would be $6000 more over 10 years for me - more than your estimate.

I also buy premium Tires, $800 per 15-20k miles - another $6000 over 100k miles.

(BTW the extra material cost for my house paint is a couple thousand $$, but the labor is less because of coverage and ease of application. I hope you meant Gal instead of Qt!
It looks better longer.)

If I leased a car and considered it a throwaway device, cheap gas with -2mpg and less performance, I might choose differently.

Yes, personal choice.

But I'm not spending $1,200 on a new iPhone every other year. (That same $6000 over 10 years.)
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JTK44

My Edge Sport, 2.7 Eco Boost Twin Turbo engine, has a compression ratio of 10 to 1: regular fuel is recommended. As you correctly point out, putting in premium would be a waste of money.
Please note that I stressed the "Normally aspirated" part, when I stated that 11.5:1 compression ratio is high.

For a Turbo-charged engine (where the air is already compressed via the forcefeeding, prior to entering the cylinders), 10:1 is really high. Significantly higher overall compression, than the 11.5:1 in a Normally aspirated engine.
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Roweraay
Please note that I stressed the "Normally aspirated" part, when I stated that 11.5:1 compression ratio is high.

For a Turbo-charged engine (where the air is already compressed via the forcefeeding, prior to entering the cylinders), 10:1 is really high. Significantly higher overall compression, than the 11.5:1 in a Normally aspirated engine.
Your 2019 BiTurbo V6 engine has a compression ratio of 10.5:1. That's exceptionally high, and I would personally stick to Premium fuel with that engine. Those knock sensors that you have in your engine, are exceptionally hard working little goblins.
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Old Mar 24, 2025 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JTK44
Same thing is in my manual.

I never go over 2500 RPM and never drive my car hard. In fact my individual settings are: steering sport; ride comfort: engine economy

The reason why I own a $75K car and put regular gasoline in is quite simple: My parents were of the depression era. I heard how hard it was, how rich and poor lost everything. It was drilled into me to have no debt and wherever possible save money. I still wash my own car rather than pay $30 to the car wash, change my own oil for $60 rather than pay $225 to the dealer: This is way I am built.

Just my $.02
Now I’m confused. You stated your manual states premium is recommended. Yet you said the disclaimer for using regular is also in the manual. Those are conflicting statements. Is the manual wrong?
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Old May 18, 2025 | 09:12 PM
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2025 GLE 450e tire pressure warning

My tire pressure warning just came on. I have 21” tires and it shows 42 for each front tire and 42 and 43 for the back.

Fuel cap shows 35/36 for normal load and 38/51 for maximum load.

What should the pressure be?

I’m confused….
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Old May 18, 2025 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by F015898
My tire pressure warning just came on. I have 21” tires and it shows 42 for each front tire and 42 and 43 for the back.

Fuel cap shows 35/36 for normal load and 38/51 for maximum load.

What should the pressure be?

I’m confused….
Use fuel cap door pressures measured when cold, once adjusted it if the warning is gone good, if it is still there, reset and save as referenced values.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by F015898
My tire pressure warning just came on. I have 21” tires and it shows 42 for each front tire and 42 and 43 for the back.

Fuel cap shows 35/36 for normal load and 38/51 for maximum load.

What should the pressure be?

I’m confused….
Why have you over-inflated your tires by so much? Are the fuel flap specs for a different tire size?
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Old May 19, 2025 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by streborx
Why have you over-inflated your tires by so much? Are the fuel flap specs for a different tire size?
A lot of people mistakenly use the doorpost as the correct inflation pressures.
The feds have made it overly complicated.

As you say, use the gas flap as correct pressures for your car.

In all cases, though, reset the pressures in the instrument cluster under the "Trip" menu.
That way the op knows when it is deviated from his chosen pressure.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Use fuel cap door pressures measured when cold, once adjusted it if the warning is gone good, if it is still there, reset and save as referenced values.
Even if the warning is gone, reset it. You want the reference to be your chosen pressure.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 03:34 PM
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As long as you aren't maxing the car load limits with people and things, use the normal load settings.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
A lot of people mistakenly use the doorpost as the correct inflation pressures.
The feds have made it overly complicated.

As you say, use the gas flap as correct pressures for your car.

In all cases, though, reset the pressures in the instrument cluster under the "Trip" menu.
That way the op knows when it is deviated from his chosen pressure.
Exactly but it does get confusing when there are several stickers. Plus doesn't only MB put stickers in the fuel cap door out of the 3 Germans? Or am I mistaken?
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Old May 19, 2025 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
Even if the warning is gone, reset it. You want the reference to be your chosen pressure.
True, otherwise the car will start bugging the driver again.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Exactly but it does get confusing when there are several stickers. Plus doesn't only MB put stickers in the fuel cap door out of the 3 Germans? Or am I mistaken?
To my knowledge, only Mercedes goes the extra step to analyze and recommend pressures for your specific build.

Which is fine, but it adds another layer of complexity unless you are familiar with it.
Which you wouldn't be, if you came from any other brand of car!
Unless you RTFM.

So it's kind of "our little secret," and there's a secret handshake. But I'm not giving away the secret handshake. Not me. I'm sworn to secrecy.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
To my knowledge, only Mercedes goes the extra step to analyze and recommend pressures for your specific build.

Which is fine, but it adds another layer of complexity unless you are familiar with it.
Which you wouldn't be, if you came from any other brand of car!
Unless you RTFM.

So it's kind of "our little secret," and there's a secret handshake. But I'm not giving away the secret handshake. Not me. I'm sworn to secrecy.
Thing is not many people read 300+ page manual they could use the digital manual and the search in the car but they like to ask online instead. Say for instance a software licensing agreement, windows software agreement is like 50? pages, who reads that people just accept and move on.
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I admit I don't read the manual either, but I do search it up first before asking.
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I admit I don't read the manual either, but I do search it up first before asking.
I do too. Which you can do in the car, including links to appropriate paragraphs and the ability to bookmark.
Also in the Mercedes me app without the ability to bookmark as far as I know.

Half the manual is warnings, precautions and otherwise useless print.
It would be 1/3 the size if they made it country-specific, and their lawyers weren't so paranoid.
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Old May 19, 2025 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikapen
I do too. Which you can do in the car, including links to appropriate paragraphs and the ability to bookmark.
Also in the Mercedes me app without the ability to bookmark as far as I know.

Half the manual is warnings, precautions and otherwise useless print.
It would be 1/3 the size if they made it country-specific, and their lawyers weren't so paranoid.
You don't say!
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