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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 05:38 PM
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About to pull the trigger on a GLE63 "non-s" but have a few questions

I'm looking at 2 GLE 63 (non-se), identical except years and mileage.
2018 w/ 28k miles
2019 w/ 15k miles ($9k more expensive)
Literally, identical builds. Both are out of warranty

I'm leaning towards the 2018, but I want to confirm there weren't any significant changes between 2018 and 2019.

Also, and more importantly, it doesn't have sport exhaust, which is holding me up. Can I add the sport exhaust with valves and etc.? Are there aftermarket companies that do something similar? I don't want always open or always closed (or a stupid remote control). I want it to automatically open and close and get a nice idle, burble, etc.

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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lawineer
I'm looking at 2 GLE 63 (non-se), identical except years and mileage.
2018 w/ 28k miles
2019 w/ 15k miles ($9k more expensive)
Literally, identical builds. Both are out of warranty

I'm leaning towards the 2018, but I want to confirm there weren't any significant changes between 2018 and 2019.

Also, and more importantly, it doesn't have sport exhaust, which is holding me up. Can I add the sport exhaust with valves and etc.? Are there aftermarket companies that do something similar? I don't want always open or always closed (or a stupid remote control). I want it to automatically open and close and get a nice idle, burble, etc.

Thanks!
Go with the 19 because it is newer, fewer miles and sport exhaust. Let’s see the pics.

No significant changes 18 to 19, possibly no changes at all to the 63. Model lineup changed (350 deleted) but each surviving model was unchanged.
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 06:14 PM
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Go with the 19 because it is newer, fewer miles and sport exhaust. Let’s see the pics.

No significant changes 18 to 19, possibly no changes at all to the 63. Model lineup changed (350 deleted) but each surviving model was unchanged.
I'm really torn. I fully intend to keep it for about 4 years and 40k miles. At that point, I doubt resale will matter much between a 7 year old AMG with 55k miles and 8 year old one with 70k miles.
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:05 PM
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I'm really torn. I fully intend to keep it for about 4 years and 40k miles. At that point, I doubt resale will matter much between a 7 year old AMG with 55k miles and 8 year old one with 70k miles.
There will be a difference, but small in my view and getting smaller going forward because the used market is softening noticeably.

FYI for the price range you are looking at, you can buy a one year newer (2019-2020) CPO Cayenne S with some factory warranty remaining and 2 more years of CPO. Something to consider. You seem pretty attached to the V8, I get it. But give the Cayenne a brief thought. Porsches hold value better than almost any other car.

This 2020 is pretty well optioned: https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...reowned-18L69M

A 2019 with sport exhaust and sport chrono (equivalent of AMG Drive Unit): https://finder.porsche.com/us/en-US/...reowned-59D4D7

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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 07:21 PM
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I took a look at them after you suggested them, but it's hard to justify paying the same or more for a car with 130 less horses. And it's certainly not nicer or more luxurious. I just feel like I get a lot more for $75k with a GLE63 than a Cayenne S.

I also think they're a bit different. The 63 is like... gentlemen's express. I want to drive 120mph in comfort down to Houston. The Porsche is more dynamic and meant to be closer to a sports car. I really don't want a sport SUV.

Truth be told, I want a bigger garage so I can get a Tahoe and supercharge it to 700hp. That is how much value want "sport." I live in Dallas where there are very few turns. My commute is literally 2.1 miles through downtown (getting cut down by 25% to 1.6 in Feb). Other than driving to the track, I dont do anything socially more than 7 or 8 miles away. I do make the occasional 30-40 mile drive for work trips out of the office about 1-2x a week, but they're generally just outside rush hour, so it's still pretty congested. If there's ever a time I want "sporty", I have the Viper, the track/race car and even a simulator, lol. I think the sportiness and agility of the Porsche is a bug, not a feature.
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Originally Posted by Lawineer
Also, and more importantly, it doesn't have sport exhaust, which is holding me up. Can I add the sport exhaust with valves and etc.? Are there aftermarket companies that do something similar? I don't want always open or always closed (or a stupid remote control). I want it to automatically open and close and get a nice idle, burble, etc
The W166 Performance Exhaust does not have open and close valves. It's a different setup:

Performance Exhaust:




Non Performance Exhaust:


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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 09:18 PM
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The W166 Performance Exhaust does not have open and close valves. It's a different setup:

Performance Exhaust:




Non Performance Exhaust:


oh, so the performance exhaust can just be bolted up? Nice. Thanks!
I may go aftermarket just for more power but this may be a good cost effective solution. I want about 725-750 crank hp
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oh, so the performance exhaust can just be bolted up? Nice. Thanks!
I may go aftermarket just for more power but this may be a good cost effective solution. I want about 725-750 crank hp
I don't have PE on my GLE63s and it sounds better in Sports+ mode versus my E63s with PE in Sport+ mode.
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Old Dec 8, 2022 | 10:34 AM
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It's in transit! I got the 2018 w/25k miles for $56k. Hard to argue with that price. It should be here, paint corrected, coated, etc by Monday. I may get some wheels for it, though. Not sure how I feel about black. I'm thinking a gunmetal gray.
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With regard to the exhaust: I spoke to Eurocharged. Super helpful. They told me to stick with non-PE if I'm doing downpipes and Stage 2. I'll do that in about a month- just want to shake the car down first.

Then comes the plate:

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Can anyone tell me exactly what the "S" package has other than exhaust and tuning? This seems like some sort of unsolvable mystery.

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*****I'm thinking a gunmetal gray.
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Then comes the plate:

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Wheels - I vote Gunmetal.
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Originally Posted by Lawineer
It's in transit! I got the 2018 w/25k miles for $56k. Hard to argue with that price. It should be here, paint corrected, coated, etc by Monday. I may get some wheels for it, though. Not sure how I feel about black. I'm thinking a gunmetal gray.
Polar white with flat black cross spoke wheels is a stunning combo. Great car at a great price considering mileage.

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Can anyone tell me exactly what the "S" package has other than exhaust and tuning? This seems like some sort of unsolvable mystery.
Those are the important things. The other two are cosmetic - CF engine cover and Nappa/Alcantara AMG steering wheel. Alcantara is great when new, but wears off fast over the years. In my experience, standard Nappa leather with Perforated leather grips (instead of Alcantara) AMG steering wheel is more practical.

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Originally Posted by Lawineer
It's in transit! I got the 2018 w/25k miles for $56k. Hard to argue with that price. It should be here, paint corrected, coated, etc by Monday. I may get some wheels for it, though. Not sure how I feel about black. I'm thinking a gunmetal gray.








With regard to the exhaust: I spoke to Eurocharged. Super helpful. They told me to stick with non-PE if I'm doing downpipes and Stage 2. I'll do that in about a month- just want to shake the car down first.

Then comes the plate:

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Can anyone tell me exactly what the "S" package has other than exhaust and tuning? This seems like some sort of unsolvable mystery.
Congratulations! Looks great.
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Polar white with flat black cross spoke wheels is a stunning combo. Great car at a great price considering mileage.



Those are the important things. The other two are cosmetic - CF engine cover and Nappa/Alcantara AMG steering wheel. Alcantara is great when new, but wears off fast over the years. In my experience, standard Nappa leather with Perforated leather grips (instead of Alcantara) AMG steering wheel is more practical.
Thank you!!! Lol, so hard to find that answer. The fact that it's just an "s" package makes it hard to search.

Excited about getting this car. Hopefully, Monday morning!
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The S has red calipers and thin red trim around the speedo and I think the tach. There are a few other things as well. Maybe an extra oil cooler? I’ll post if I remember.
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The S has red calipers and thin red trim around the speedo and I think the tach. There are a few other things as well. Maybe an extra oil cooler? I’ll post if I remember.
I found this- different top speeds (electronically controlled) wheels and tire width.

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