Considering my dream car was hoping for some quick advice
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Some things fail with age not just miles. My GLE63 is 7 years old. That E63s is 8 years old. So failure at 19k/20k miles on a 8 year old car may not be considered defective - it could malfunction due to age from factors like environment or weather. They all fail. Airmatic not gonna last 150k miles.
The OP even acknowledged airmatic problems in his second post but you tell us they are defective:
The OP even acknowledged airmatic problems in his second post but you tell us they are defective:
Fair point though, these things aren't going to go bad with only miles, it could be miles or years. 150k miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. Something like that.
At that age, if one failed, I'd probably replace all four units (assuming its the rubber ballasts themselves that failed) since the others are likely going to follow suit. $15,000 repair is definitely rough. Extended warranty may be something to consider if OP lives in a place that sees snow and salt in the winters.
This is what i meant by my first post in this thread though, in the end these are just beefy rubber balloons that will dry and crack over enough time.
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The E63 was 5 years old when that guy made his post. So that sucks, could be a defect or could be just a side effect of where the guy lives/drives.
Fair point though, these things aren't going to go bad with only miles, it could be miles or years. 150k miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. Something like that.
At that age, if one failed, I'd probably replace all four units (assuming its the rubber ballasts themselves that failed) since the others are likely going to follow suit. $15,000 repair is definitely rough. Extended warranty may be something to consider if OP lives in a place that sees snow and salt in the winters.
This is what i meant by my first post in this thread though, in the end these are just beefy rubber balloons that will dry and crack over enough time.
Fair point though, these things aren't going to go bad with only miles, it could be miles or years. 150k miles or 7 years, whichever comes first. Something like that.
At that age, if one failed, I'd probably replace all four units (assuming its the rubber ballasts themselves that failed) since the others are likely going to follow suit. $15,000 repair is definitely rough. Extended warranty may be something to consider if OP lives in a place that sees snow and salt in the winters.
This is what i meant by my first post in this thread though, in the end these are just beefy rubber balloons that will dry and crack over enough time.
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This place is a joke.
I believe 90,000 miles is where people begin to see those problems.
Do a search and don't believe one poster who has no evidence.
There are four folks who take every opportunity to insert preposterous posts. Spend some time on the Forum and you'll easily see who they are. Look for more evidence before you believe such things.
Do a search and don't believe one poster who has no evidence.
There are four folks who take every opportunity to insert preposterous posts. Spend some time on the Forum and you'll easily see who they are. Look for more evidence before you believe such things.
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I've owned a couple Nissans over the years as a DIY guy when it comes to fluids, filters, and spark plugs/coil packs. Easily crushed 150,000 miles on both vehicles with absolutely no issues or need to take into a shop ever except for tires and brakes. Im considering a 2021 GLE 63 s with 30,000 miles, MB certified, so I believe if I read correctly it holds the 50,000 mile 4 year original warranty and then as soon as that expires I get one more year with no mile cap as per the certified program. As someone who is relatively capable and confident, am I even going to be able to attempt spark plugs on this thing? I like to hold onto cars and have fun with them for 8 or so years before I move onto something different. I like to travel a lot and I'm imagining I could easily take her to 150,000 miles (mostly highway) by the time I'm ready for something different. Is that a mistake in and of itself for an AMG car as in expecting this to be as long term reliable as my Nissans? Is it theoretically possible that if I take good care of it and not abuse it (too much) I could get to 150,000 miles with nothing major needing to be replaced, like my Nissans, or is that a pipe dream for a performance orientated car like this? Are there things that I'm not used to on my Nissans that I'm 100% going to have to deal with as this car ages to that point? Thanks in advance!!
High horsepower vehicles of all brands are heavy drinkers and go through tires and brakes at alarming rates. This is not MB-specific.
The MB 48V system is a legend in its own time. For unreliability. Don't believe me. Read this site. Avoid at all costs.
Air suspension is what it is. It's a great system function-wise, but requires regular maintenance because it fails over time. Figure that into the gasoline, tires and brakes budget. Don't forget about the cash flow.
If none of the above scares you, enjoy the car. It looks great and will be fun, when it isn't draining your wallet.
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Please do, and be that "poster who has evidence."
That would be constructive.
Then we could use your specific data instead of opinions, which are usually prefaced by words such as "I believe," instead of "I know this to be true and here's the evidence."
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This place is a joke.
You, too, can "do a search" to find the answers.
Please do, and be that "poster who has evidence."
That would be constructive.
Then we could use your specific data instead of opinions, which are usually prefaced by words such as "I believe," instead of "I know this to be true and here's the evidence."
Please do, and be that "poster who has evidence."
That would be constructive.
Then we could use your specific data instead of opinions, which are usually prefaced by words such as "I believe," instead of "I know this to be true and here's the evidence."
Let's talk experience. I'll tell you mine after working exclusively on MB vehicles for the last 20 years....The airmatic systems have shown greatly improved reliability since around 2010 on the 212 e-class, 2014 222 s-class and 166 platforms. What used to be big money makers on the older model airmatic systems are now just an occasional problem.
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Yeah, even on a Lexus GX, they don't go much past 10-12 years. And every other part other than spark plugs on that car is good for about 500k miles.
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This place is a joke.
You are barking up the wrong tree, expecting to run a late model AMG to high mileage, let alone within any kind of reasonable budget. Do you have a large and stable flow of cash to plow into this vehicle as it ages?
High horsepower vehicles of all brands are heavy drinkers and go through tires and brakes at alarming rates. This is not MB-specific.
The MB 48V system is a legend in its own time. For unreliability. Don't believe me. Read this site. Avoid at all costs.
Air suspension is what it is. It's a great system function-wise, but requires regular maintenance because it fails over time. Figure that into the gasoline, tires and brakes budget. Don't forget about the cash flow.
If none of the above scares you, enjoy the car. It looks great and will be fun, when it isn't draining your wallet.
High horsepower vehicles of all brands are heavy drinkers and go through tires and brakes at alarming rates. This is not MB-specific.
The MB 48V system is a legend in its own time. For unreliability. Don't believe me. Read this site. Avoid at all costs.
Air suspension is what it is. It's a great system function-wise, but requires regular maintenance because it fails over time. Figure that into the gasoline, tires and brakes budget. Don't forget about the cash flow.
If none of the above scares you, enjoy the car. It looks great and will be fun, when it isn't draining your wallet.
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The Lucas stamp wasn't needed after 2021.
But if necessary, replacement smoke may be appropriate. https://www.bctriumphregistry.com/smoke.htm
But if necessary, replacement smoke may be appropriate. https://www.bctriumphregistry.com/smoke.htm
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Generally, high performance vehicles are more to upkeep.
Generally, low volume vehicles are more to upkeep.
Generally, expensive vehicles are more to upkeep.
It's just the nature of beast here.
If it (for some reason I can't begin to understand) is truly your dream car and you're concerned about it, spend a few grand and get an extended warranty. Problem solved.
Generally, low volume vehicles are more to upkeep.
Generally, expensive vehicles are more to upkeep.
It's just the nature of beast here.
If it (for some reason I can't begin to understand) is truly your dream car and you're concerned about it, spend a few grand and get an extended warranty. Problem solved.
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It's the best of breed, a design that leapfrogged the competition (especially the 166), and it's good looking.
It's vey capable off road, tows a massive load and is fun to drive. Gets good mileage, is spacious and demand continues to exceed supply.
The Icing on the Cake is that Consumer Reports hates the cupholders. That puts it in elite company!
And then there's personal preference.
Does that help?
It's vey capable off road, tows a massive load and is fun to drive. Gets good mileage, is spacious and demand continues to exceed supply.
The Icing on the Cake is that Consumer Reports hates the cupholders. That puts it in elite company!
And then there's personal preference.
Does that help?
