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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 04:10 PM
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AMG GLE 53 Drive Modes

I was looking to configure the Individual Drive Mode was going to set Transmission to Sport then Suspension to Sport but not sure what the difference is between AMG Dynamics setting Basic Vs Advanced Vs Pro is that the exhaust function. What is best set up to customize Individual mode any advise appreciated.
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 05:08 PM
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AMG DYNAMICS is an integrated chassis dynamics control system. It adjusts the vehicle's handling and performance. The higher up you go with the setting, the more playful the car becomes. Each of the four modes (you only have three) are associated with the respective drive modes. On one end is Basic, which prioritizes stability and safety with very high yaw damping, meaning the car won't rotate easily and ESP will quickly put an end to any type of sliding. On the other end is Master which is only available in models that have RACE mode. It lets the car oversteer to some degree before ESP intervenes, but Master is only available if ESP is set to at least Sport mode, otherwise it reverts back to Pro.

Basically AMG DYNAMICS is an extension of ESP. Instead of only intervening once instability is detected, AMG DYNAMICS actively shapes the car's handling and proactively helps getting most out of the car's natural handling before instability sets in. It does this completely transparent to the driver. It's the next generation of ESP and gives finer control over ESP. Basically you have three modes for AMG DYNAMICS, four if you have RACE mode, and then on top of it for each AMG DYNAMICS mode you can further fine tune it by putting ESP in Sport mode or turn it off completely.

Which mode is best is up to you. Do you want stability and safety or more hooligan? FWIW, I'm using Pro in my Individual mode for my C63S coupe. It makes the car playful for spirited driving while still having enough of a safety net. When I hit up the canyons I put it in RACE mode and ESP in Sport mode in order to set AMG DYNAMICS to Master. The car then becomes noticeably more balanced, very natural to drift and puts down the power much better coming out of corners in my case with RWD. I really like AMG DYNAMICS. It elevates the driving dynamics of modern AMGs.

AMG Dynamics is a set of dynamic control programs for Mercedes-AMG vehicles that work with the AMG DYNAMIC SELECT system to adjust the vehicle's handling and performance:
  • AMG Dynamics modes
    There are four AMG Dynamics modes: Basic, Advanced, Pro, and Master:
    • Master: For the RACE program, this mode provides a slightly oversteering vehicle balance with more direct steering and more agile turn-in behavior.
    • Basic: For the Comfort and Electric drive programs, this mode provides a stable ride with high yaw damping.
    • Advanced: For the Sport program, this mode provides a neutral balance with lower yaw damping, lower steering angle, and enhanced agility.
    • Pro: For the Sport+ program, this mode provides more dynamic driving maneuvers with increased agility and precise handling.

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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
AMG DYNAMICS is an integrated chassis dynamics control system. It adjusts the vehicle's handling and performance. The higher up you go with the setting, the more playful the car becomes. Each of the four modes (you only have three) are associated with the respective drive modes. On one end is Basic, which prioritizes stability and safety with very high yaw damping, meaning the car won't rotate easily and ESP will quickly put an end to any type of sliding. On the other end is Master which is only available in models that have RACE mode. It lets the car oversteer to some degree before ESP intervenes, but Master is only available if ESP is set to at least Sport mode, otherwise it reverts back to Pro.

Basically AMG DYNAMICS is an extension of ESP. Instead of only intervening once instability is detected, AMG DYNAMICS actively shapes the car's handling and proactively helps getting most out of the car's natural handling before instability sets in. It does this completely transparent to the driver. It's the next generation of ESP and gives finer control over ESP. Basically you have three modes for AMG DYNAMICS, four if you have RACE mode, and then on top of it for each AMG DYNAMICS mode you can further fine tune it by putting ESP in Sport mode or turn it off completely.

Which mode is best is up to you. Do you want stability and safety or more hooligan? FWIW, I'm using Pro in my Individual mode for my C63S coupe. It makes the car playful for spirited driving while still having enough of a safety net. When I hit up the canyons I put it in RACE mode and ESP in Sport mode in order to set AMG DYNAMICS to Master. The car then becomes noticeably more balanced, very natural to drift and puts down the power much better coming out of corners in my case with RWD. I really like AMG DYNAMICS. It elevates the driving dynamics of modern AMGs.
Very informative thank you!
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
AMG DYNAMICS is an integrated chassis dynamics control system. It adjusts the vehicle's handling and performance. The higher up you go with the setting, the more playful the car becomes. Each of the four modes (you only have three) are associated with the respective drive modes. On one end is Basic, which prioritizes stability and safety with very high yaw damping, meaning the car won't rotate easily and ESP will quickly put an end to any type of sliding. On the other end is Master which is only available in models that have RACE mode. It lets the car oversteer to some degree before ESP intervenes, but Master is only available if ESP is set to at least Sport mode, otherwise it reverts back to Pro.

Basically AMG DYNAMICS is an extension of ESP. Instead of only intervening once instability is detected, AMG DYNAMICS actively shapes the car's handling and proactively helps getting most out of the car's natural handling before instability sets in. It does this completely transparent to the driver. It's the next generation of ESP and gives finer control over ESP. Basically you have three modes for AMG DYNAMICS, four if you have RACE mode, and then on top of it for each AMG DYNAMICS mode you can further fine tune it by putting ESP in Sport mode or turn it off completely.

Which mode is best is up to you. Do you want stability and safety or more hooligan? FWIW, I'm using Pro in my Individual mode for my C63S coupe. It makes the car playful for spirited driving while still having enough of a safety net. When I hit up the canyons I put it in RACE mode and ESP in Sport mode in order to set AMG DYNAMICS to Master. The car then becomes noticeably more balanced, very natural to drift and puts down the power much better coming out of corners in my case with RWD. I really like AMG DYNAMICS. It elevates the driving dynamics of modern AMGs.
Great explanation. I set up my individual last night, and now I have lost function of the lower left AMG button. What the hell? I cant's adjust or scroll through the option anymore, in any drive mode? Did I do something wrong?
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
AMG DYNAMICS is an integrated chassis dynamics control system. It adjusts the vehicle's handling and performance. The higher up you go with the setting, the more playful the car becomes. Each of the four modes (you only have three) are associated with the respective drive modes. On one end is Basic, which prioritizes stability and safety with very high yaw damping, meaning the car won't rotate easily and ESP will quickly put an end to any type of sliding. On the other end is Master which is only available in models that have RACE mode. It lets the car oversteer to some degree before ESP intervenes, but Master is only available if ESP is set to at least Sport mode, otherwise it reverts back to Pro.

Basically AMG DYNAMICS is an extension of ESP. Instead of only intervening once instability is detected, AMG DYNAMICS actively shapes the car's handling and proactively helps getting most out of the car's natural handling before instability sets in. It does this completely transparent to the driver. It's the next generation of ESP and gives finer control over ESP. Basically you have three modes for AMG DYNAMICS, four if you have RACE mode, and then on top of it for each AMG DYNAMICS mode you can further fine tune it by putting ESP in Sport mode or turn it off completely.

Which mode is best is up to you. Do you want stability and safety or more hooligan? FWIW, I'm using Pro in my Individual mode for my C63S coupe. It makes the car playful for spirited driving while still having enough of a safety net. When I hit up the canyons I put it in RACE mode and ESP in Sport mode in order to set AMG DYNAMICS to Master. The car then becomes noticeably more balanced, very natural to drift and puts down the power much better coming out of corners in my case with RWD. I really like AMG DYNAMICS. It elevates the driving dynamics of modern AMGs.
Sorry, you're referring to something else. This is something completely different.

To the OP, those three "AMG Dynamics" settings are for your AMG Active Ride Control. That allows you to select how aggressive you want the active roll stabilization to be.

If you want maximum comfort, leave the setting in basic as it will both allow the wheels to move freely of one another (no head toss) while also keeping body roll to a minimum.

If you want as little body roll as possible, put it in Pro. It will really tighten up the rear end and not allow for any body roll.
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Buddy110
Great explanation. I set up my individual last night, and now I have lost function of the lower left AMG button. What the hell? I cant's adjust or scroll through the option anymore, in any drive mode? Did I do something wrong?
Please disregard that information, that is incorrect.

Those four settings are referring to "AMG Dynamics" which allows you to choose how loose and playful you want the car/stability control to be. It's mostly related to ESP. I don't think this system/feature is even in GLEs, at least not 53s.

The three settings are referring to "AMG Active Ride Control" which is an anti-roll stabilization system. It allows you to choose how flat you want the body of the car to be while cornering. It also enhances comfort.

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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
Please disregard that information, that is incorrect.

Those four settings are referring to "AMG Dynamics" which allows you to choose how loose and playful you want the car/stability control to be. It's mostly related to ESP. I don't think this system/feature is even in GLEs, at least not 53s.

The three settings are referring to "AMG Active Ride Control" which is an anti-roll stabilization system. It allows you to choose how flat you want the body of the car to be while cornering. It also enhances comfort.
Ya, I assumed that when I chose the options. I'm just not sure why I lost the functionality of my lower left settings button. I can't scroll through any settings
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 11:43 AM
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I currently have the first two setting in SPORT and the third-AMG DYNAMICS- in BASIC and I turned on the sport exhaust. i was feeling the sport mode for AMG Dynamics held the revs higher. I feel it’s a smoother ride with how I have it programmed but after a few days I will try it with AMG DYNAMICS in ADVANCED mode see how I like that. It’s nice having the option to program the Individual mode with my preferences. The preset Sport Mode is setup with the first two settings in Sport and third in Advanced with the Exhaust in regular mode. This truck is really exceptional and meets all my needs.
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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
Sorry, you're referring to something else. This is something completely different.

To the OP, those three "AMG Dynamics" settings are for your AMG Active Ride Control. That allows you to select how aggressive you want the active roll stabilization to be.

If you want maximum comfort, leave the setting in basic as it will both allow the wheels to move freely of one another (no head toss) while also keeping body roll to a minimum.

If you want as little body roll as possible, put it in Pro. It will really tighten up the rear end and not allow for any body roll.
Sorry, but you don't understand AMG DYNAMICS at all. AMG DYNAMICS is Bosch's integrated vehicle dynamics controller. Yes, with Active Ride Control it influences that as well, but it's much bigger than that. It brings all the driving dynamics systems together under one Umbrella. All modern AMGs have it. I have it in my 2019 C63S Coupe, which doesn't have active roll stabilization. It does different things in different models based on the available hardware, for example in my C63's case it controls the electronic rear differential, but ultimately it's all about shaping the driving dynamics as I said.

The explanation I provided initially is simplistic of course. AMG doesn't really talk about it much, either, but here's a link to the Bosch website if you wanna learn more about what it is all about.

https://www.bosch-mobility.com/en/so...amics-control/

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Old Oct 26, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
Sorry, but you don't understand AMG DYNAMICS at all. AMG DYNAMICS is Bosch's integrated vehicle dynamics controller. Yes, with Active Ride Control it influences that as well, but it's much bigger than that. It brings all the driving dynamics systems together under one Umbrella. All modern AMGs have it. I have it in my 2019 C63S Coupe, which doesn't have active roll stabilization. It does different things in different models based on the available hardware, for example in my C63's case it controls the electronic rear differential, but ultimately it's all about shaping the driving dynamics as I said.

The explanation I provided initially is simplistic of course. AMG doesn't really talk about it much, either, but here's a link to the Bosch website if you wanna learn more about what it is all about.

https://www.bosch-mobility.com/en/so...amics-control/
That's great, thanks for sharing. It doesn't apply to the GLE.
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That's great, thanks for sharing. It doesn't apply to the GLE.
Are you saying that the GLE 53 just pretends to have AMG DYNAMICS? If so, do you have documentation that supports that claim? To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the 53 models used a dumbed down system and AMG just refers to it as AMG DYNAMICS for consistency. After all, the 53 models don't have the eDiff for example, but Bosch's system can be tailored to various available actuators depending on the vehicle domain.

Having said that, I doubt it. For example prior to the introduction of AMG DYNAMICS, AMGs had a steering setting in the Individual mode configuration. This is now gone, because the steering is also controlled by AMG DYNAMICS.

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Originally Posted by superswiss
Are you saying that the GLE 53 just pretends to have AMG DYNAMICS? If so, do you have documentation that supports that claim? To be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the 53 models used a dumbed down system and AMG just refers to it as AMG DYNAMICS for consistency. After all, the 53 models don't have the eDiff for example, but Bosch's system can be tailored to various available actuators depending on the vehicle domain.

Having said that, I doubt it. For example prior to the introduction of AMG DYNAMICS, AMGs had a steering setting in the Individual mode configuration. This is now gone, because the steering is also controlled by AMG DYNAMICS.
The GLE isn't pretending to do anything... There are 2 systems that some Mercedes/AMG models have:

1. AMG Dynamics - (Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master) = this is adjusting how playful the car is/how restrictive the stability control is (I understand it controls more than just ESP, but at the end of the day, this is all this system is really doing).
There are very few models that have the "AMG Dynamics" adjustment, which is essentially a glorified 4-mode stability control. It primarily allows you to adjust playfulness/drift angle. If I remember correctly, the C63 has it and the AMG GT has it. I'm not sure if many others have it.

2. AMG Active Ride Control - (Basic/Advanced/Pro) = this is adjusting the anti-roll stabilization system. It can go from fully unlocked/loose to allow for maximum articulation and comfort over bumps to fully locked/tightened up to keep the body completely flat. It's always working to keep the body flat, even in its Basic setting, it just increases in intensity from there. It's similar to Mercedes' ABC (Active Body Control) system of the past in function (keeping the body of the car level and flat at all times no matter what's going on) except that used a high PSI hydraulic system, this uses electromechanical actuators in place of anti-roll bars.

The GLE 53 has system #2 as an available option, this is what the OP was asking about. Like I mentioned earlier, system #1 is completely different (despite very similar settings adjustments) and is offered in relatively few models.
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Old Oct 27, 2024 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
The GLE isn't pretending to do anything... There are 2 systems that some Mercedes/AMG models have:

1. AMG Dynamics - (Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master) = this is adjusting how playful the car is/how restrictive the stability control is (I understand it controls more than just ESP, but at the end of the day, this is all this system is really doing).
There are very few models that have the "AMG Dynamics" adjustment, which is essentially a glorified 4-mode stability control. It primarily allows you to adjust playfulness/drift angle. If I remember correctly, the C63 has it and the AMG GT has it. I'm not sure if many others have it.

2. AMG Active Ride Control - (Basic/Advanced/Pro) = this is adjusting the anti-roll stabilization system. It can go from fully unlocked/loose to allow for maximum articulation and comfort over bumps to fully locked/tightened up to keep the body completely flat. It's always working to keep the body flat, even in its Basic setting, it just increases in intensity from there. It's similar to Mercedes' ABC (Active Body Control) system of the past in function (keeping the body of the car level and flat at all times no matter what's going on) except that used a high PSI hydraulic system, this uses electromechanical actuators in place of anti-roll bars.

The GLE 53 has system #2 as an available option, this is what the OP was asking about. Like I mentioned earlier, system #1 is completely different (despite very similar settings adjustments) and is offered in relatively few models.
i beg to differ. AMG Dynamic dramatically affects engine performance. In my "I" setting all I have is AMG Dynamics set to PRO and the resulting acceleration is better than that of Sport mode. Setting to PRO may turn exhaust to Powerful and I had to return it to Balanced in my "I" setting since I don't like all the noise.
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Old Oct 27, 2024 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
The GLE isn't pretending to do anything... There are 2 systems that some Mercedes/AMG models have:

1. AMG Dynamics - (Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master) = this is adjusting how playful the car is/how restrictive the stability control is (I understand it controls more than just ESP, but at the end of the day, this is all this system is really doing).
There are very few models that have the "AMG Dynamics" adjustment, which is essentially a glorified 4-mode stability control. It primarily allows you to adjust playfulness/drift angle. If I remember correctly, the C63 has it and the AMG GT has it. I'm not sure if many others have it.

2. AMG Active Ride Control - (Basic/Advanced/Pro) = this is adjusting the anti-roll stabilization system. It can go from fully unlocked/loose to allow for maximum articulation and comfort over bumps to fully locked/tightened up to keep the body completely flat. It's always working to keep the body flat, even in its Basic setting, it just increases in intensity from there. It's similar to Mercedes' ABC (Active Body Control) system of the past in function (keeping the body of the car level and flat at all times no matter what's going on) except that used a high PSI hydraulic system, this uses electromechanical actuators in place of anti-roll bars.

The GLE 53 has system #2 as an available option, this is what the OP was asking about. Like I mentioned earlier, system #1 is completely different (despite very similar settings adjustments) and is offered in relatively few models.
Well this is interesting. According to my window sticker, I have neither AMG ride control or AMG dynamics. However, Mbux lists AMG dynamics and I have the options in your paragraph 2. AMG dynamics must be standard equipment?
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i beg to differ. AMG Dynamic dramatically affects engine performance. In my "I" setting all I have is AMG Dynamics set to PRO and the resulting acceleration is better than that of Sport mode. Setting to PRO may turn exhaust to Powerful and I had to return it to Balanced in my "I" setting since I don't like all the noise.
To clarify, are you saying you have "AMG Dynamics" in your GLE? And are you saying that you can bypass the drive modes (C, S, S+, Race etc) and just use "AMG Dynamics" to control the drive modes (and stability settings) together? Rather than the AMG Dynamics being a sub-drive mode of the Drive Modes (C/S/S+/etc)?
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Well this is interesting. According to my window sticker, I have neither AMG ride control or AMG dynamics. However, Mbux lists AMG dynamics and I have the options in your paragraph 2. AMG dynamics must be standard equipment?
Hmmm... AMG Dynamics could definitely be standard if it's offered on the GLE, not sure. The AMG Ride Control anti-roll system is definitely optional though.
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Wow this is getting confusing, so many similar drive modes and settings...

For those with AMG Dynamics, do you not have normal drive modes anymore (C, S, S+ etc) and instead only have Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master?


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Wow this is getting confusing, so many similar drive modes and settings...

For those with AMG Dynamics, do you not have normal drive modes anymore (C, S, S+ etc) and instead only have Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master?

Yes it's very confusing. Mercedes, unfortunately, uses similar names for different years and models.

I thought my 21 AMG 53 had AMG Dynamics as standard, independent of Active Ride Control, which is the active 48v sway bars.

The number of settings in "Dynamic" varies with configuration - the 63s gets Race mode, and I've had RJ Automotive code it into my 53.

It's interesting how it changes the application of power through the AWD+ system, and you can feel the front "clawing out" of corners more aggressively in the racier settings. At the track.

ARC is another level. It makes the car handle and ride much better. I wouldn't have a 53 without it, and I'd be 9n another brand.

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Wow this is getting confusing, so many similar drive modes and settings...

For those with AMG Dynamics, do you not have normal drive modes anymore (C, S, S+ etc) and instead only have Basic/Advanced/Pro/Master?
Yes, still normal drive modes. You definitely do not understand AMG DYNAMICS and are just confusing OP and everybody else. It's just a component of the drive mode, like the suspension etc. I thought you at least had an AMG yourself and were at least familiar with the AMG DYNAMICS setting, but sounds like you are just reading the wrong stuff.

AMG DYNAMICS is set as follows for each of the standard modes:

Comfort -> Basic
Sport -> Advanced
Sport+ -> Pro
Race -> Master (with ESP Sport or OFF, otherwise it's also Pro)

It's part of the mode, not a separate thing, just like the suspension, exhaust and all the other settings. I'm not entirely sure how else to describe it. Whatever you chose for AMG DYNAMICS in the Individual mode configuration controls the chassis dynamics of the vehicle, which includes the steering, roll stabilization, torque vectoring and other actuators.

Just to illustrate, AMG DYNAMICS is one component of the drive mode. This picture shows I'm in I* and you can see I've set AMG DYNAMICS to Pro, Engine to Dynamic, Suspension to Sport, Exhaust to Powerful and Transmission to M. That's what makes up my Individual mode for example. Again, my car doesn't have Active Ride Control. They are only related to the extent that if you have Active Ride Control, then AMG DYNAMICS influences and integrates it into the overall chassis dynamics.








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AMG Dynamics is one of the options standard on my 2025 AMG 53 and the Active Ride Control is a $2800 option I did not get, it gives you active roll stabilization, helps reduce body roll and provides enhanced comfort by better adapting to bumps. I feel my truck is comfortable enough with all the standard options I do not regret not getting that option but I am sure it’s a good option if you have an unlimited budget and it will enhance your experience if you intend to take it on a race track. I still have option to change drive modes to Comfort, Sport and Sport + etc. I currently have Individual set as follows first setting on Moderate, second on Sport and AMG Dynamics on Basic with Exhaust regular. I just wanted a stiffer ride without the higher revs and setting the first setting on Sport held the revs higher. Can always crank it up to Sport + and the truck becomes a Beast.
Standard on the 2025 is
AMG RIDE CONTROL+ based on AIRMATIC
AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
ADAPTIVE DAMPENING SYSTEM ADS PLUS

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Old Oct 27, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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While playing tennis it occurred to me where QuadBenz's confusion is coming from. I think he's confusing AMG DYNAMIC SELECT with AMG DYNAMICS. They are not the same thing. I know, the word Dynamic is probably the most overused word when it comes to describing a car, but it's important to understand the difference between the two.

AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
This is the overall Drive Mode system. It allows you to choose between different drive modes. Slippery, Comfort, Sport, Sport+, Race, Offroad, Individual and whatever other overall modes the different vehicles have. These modes need to be thought off as profiles. Each profile is made up of various subsystems depending on the model, and each subsystem has its own settings. These subsystems are the suspension or engine for example. The overall drive modes determine the chosen setting for each of the subsystems.

AMG DYNAMICS
This is one of the subsystems along with the suspension and engine etc. Its purpose is to control the handling of the vehicle. Particularly it determines the oversteer and understeer characteristics of the vehicle. In models with 4Matic+ for example, AMG DYNAMICS determines when and how much power is sent to the front wheels. In the Basic mode, power is sent to the front wheels more often in order to keep the car neutral and neither understeer nor oversteer. Whereas Pro and especially Master sends the power mostly to the rear wheels, so that the vehicle mostly oversteers in corners. In addition it controls how the power is distributed between the left and right wheels. This is known as torque vectoring and further enhances the oversteer and understeer characteristics. In the GLE 53 it does this by selectively applying the brakes during cornering to send more power/torque to the outer wheels depending on how hard you are cornering. In the 63 models it does active torque vectoring via the electronic locking rear differential.

As far as roll stabilization goes with the Active Ride Control, I'm not entirely sure AMG DYNAMICS has a hand in that. It probably does influence it, but you still have the separate suspension setting to control the comfort level of the suspension. AMG DYNAMICS does not influence the comfort level. That's what the suspension setting is for.

I hope this clears up some of the confusion that was created.

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Old Oct 27, 2024 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by superswiss
While playing tennis it occurred to me where QuadBenz's confusion is coming from. I think he's confusing AMG DYNAMIC SELECT with AMG DYNAMICS. They are not the same thing. I know, the word Dynamic is probably the most overused word when it comes to describing a car, but it's important to understand the difference between the two.

AMG DYNAMIC SELECT
This is the overall Drive Mode system. It allows you to choose between different drive modes. Slippery, Comfort, Sport, Sport+, Race, Offroad, Individual and whatever other overall modes the different vehicles have. These modes need to be thought off as profiles. Each profile is made up of various subsystems depending on the model, and each subsystem has its own settings. These subsystems are the suspension or engine for example. The overall drive modes determine the chosen setting for each of the subsystems.

AMG DYNAMICS
This is one of the subsystems along with the suspension and engine etc. Its purpose is to control the handling of the vehicle. Particularly it determines the oversteer and understeer characteristics of the vehicle. In models with 4Matic+ for example, AMG DYNAMICS determines when and how much power is sent to the front wheels. In the Basic mode, power is sent to the front wheels more often in order to keep the car neutral and neither understeer nor oversteer. Whereas Pro and especially Master sends the power mostly to the rear wheels, so that the vehicle mostly oversteers in corners. In addition it controls how the power is distributed between the left and right wheels. This is known as torque vectoring and further enhances the oversteer and understeer characteristics. In the GLE 53 it does this by selectively applying the brakes during cornering to send more power/torque to the outer wheels depending on how hard you are cornering. In the 63 models it does active torque vectoring via the electronic locking rear differential.

As far as roll stabilization goes with the Active Ride Control, I'm not entirely sure AMG DYNAMICS has a hand in that. It probably does influence it, but you still have the separate suspension setting to control the comfort level of the suspension. AMG DYNAMICS does not influence the comfort level. That's what the suspension setting is for.

I hope this clears up some of the confusion that was created.
This helps a lot. Thanls
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Old Oct 28, 2024 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by QuadBenz
To clarify, are you saying you have "AMG Dynamics" in your GLE? And are you saying that you can bypass the drive modes (C, S, S+, Race etc) and just use "AMG Dynamics" to control the drive modes (and stability settings) together? Rather than the AMG Dynamics being a sub-drive mode of the Drive Modes (C/S/S+/etc)?
Not sure of the terminology, but my sticker says I have "AMG Dynamic Select System." The suspension is controlled by "AMG Ride Control+ based on AIRMATIC."
and, yes, using the "I" mode I can bypass the default drive mode settings and customize almost everything. Some settings for example like Master in Dynamics force the exhaust to be set to Powerful -- for reasons only MB knows.
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