How often I should change engine oil for GLK?
10-22-2009, 07:21 PM
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Question: Oil Change Intervals for a Low-Mileage Mercedes-BenzMobil 1 0W-40 was installed in my 2000 Mercedes-Benz E320 two years ago, and since I've only driven 4,000 miles in that time, the oil has never been changed. The dealer said that the car's computer will dictate when the next service is due. This may be some time in the future. My question is, how long does oil maintain its effective viscosity? -- G. Hutch, Carlisle, PA
Answer: Your Mercedes-Benz is equipped with a Flexible Service System which includes a very sophisticated oil quality monitor. The system looks at driving speeds, cold starts, short-distance trips and other factors that can negatively affect oil life. It also monitors the quality of the oil – particles in suspension and other factors – and it can judge when the oil has deteriorated to the extent that it needs to be replaced. Without this kind of comprehensive analysis – in other words, if you had no way of determining the state of the oil in the crankcase – we would suggest the general rule of changing the oil every year in very low-mileage vehicles.
Question: Oil Change Intervals for a Low-Mileage Mercedes-BenzMobil 1 0W-40 was installed in my 2000 Mercedes-Benz E320 two years ago, and since I've only driven 4,000 miles in that time, the oil has never been changed. The dealer said that the car's computer will dictate when the next service is due. This may be some time in the future. My question is, how long does oil maintain its effective viscosity? -- G. Hutch, Carlisle, PA
Answer: Your Mercedes-Benz is equipped with a Flexible Service System which includes a very sophisticated oil quality monitor. The system looks at driving speeds, cold starts, short-distance trips and other factors that can negatively affect oil life. It also monitors the quality of the oil – particles in suspension and other factors – and it can judge when the oil has deteriorated to the extent that it needs to be replaced. Without this kind of comprehensive analysis – in other words, if you had no way of determining the state of the oil in the crankcase – we would suggest the general rule of changing the oil every year in very low-mileage vehicles.
10-22-2009, 07:59 PM
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That's an older benz you reference... so it doesn't apply here... MB engine design and materials have changed slightly since then.
This is the oil the factory currently uses in all NEW Canadian and USA GLK models. It can only be purchased at your local dealer for now. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...la_m_5w-40.pdf
The commercial store version is a straight Mobil-1 0w-40 but make sure you look for the 229.5 Mercedes Spec on the bottle or box before you buy it. The commercial store Mobil-1 5w-40 is NOT to be used since it doesn NOT meet Mercedes specs.
But like I said, in order to have multigrade oils of any kind, viscosity extending additives are blended in. Our race cars use a straight single weight synthetic... and sometimes a racing blend syn multigrade 10w-30/40. The more the spread, the more additives there are... period... there's no other way to do it. That's why Mercedes uses Mobil-1 Formula-M 5w-40 and NOT 0w-40 from the factory.
So do what you wish... I'm sure it will be okay... but do not get the ESP Type-M whatever you do... just Formula-M.
Good luck.....
This is the oil the factory currently uses in all NEW Canadian and USA GLK models. It can only be purchased at your local dealer for now. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...la_m_5w-40.pdf
The commercial store version is a straight Mobil-1 0w-40 but make sure you look for the 229.5 Mercedes Spec on the bottle or box before you buy it. The commercial store Mobil-1 5w-40 is NOT to be used since it doesn NOT meet Mercedes specs.
But like I said, in order to have multigrade oils of any kind, viscosity extending additives are blended in. Our race cars use a straight single weight synthetic... and sometimes a racing blend syn multigrade 10w-30/40. The more the spread, the more additives there are... period... there's no other way to do it. That's why Mercedes uses Mobil-1 Formula-M 5w-40 and NOT 0w-40 from the factory.
So do what you wish... I'm sure it will be okay... but do not get the ESP Type-M whatever you do... just Formula-M.
Good luck.....
10-23-2009, 01:43 AM
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That's an older benz you reference... so it doesn't apply here... MB engine design and materials have changed slightly since then.
This is the oil the factory currently uses in all NEW Canadian and USA GLK models. It can only be purchased at your local dealer for now. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...la_m_5w-40.pdf
The commercial store version is a straight Mobil-1 0w-40 but make sure you look for the 229.5 Mercedes Spec on the bottle or box before you buy it. The commercial store Mobil-1 5w-40 is NOT to be used since it doesn NOT meet Mercedes specs.
But like I said, in order to have multigrade oils of any kind, viscosity extending additives are blended in. Our race cars use a straight single weight synthetic... and sometimes a racing blend syn multigrade 10w-30/40. The more the spread, the more additives there are... period... there's no other way to do it. That's why Mercedes uses Mobil-1 Formula-M 5w-40 and NOT 0w-40 from the factory.
So do what you wish... I'm sure it will be okay... but do not get the ESP Type-M whatever you do... just Formula-M.
Good luck.....
This is the oil the factory currently uses in all NEW Canadian and USA GLK models. It can only be purchased at your local dealer for now. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...la_m_5w-40.pdf
The commercial store version is a straight Mobil-1 0w-40 but make sure you look for the 229.5 Mercedes Spec on the bottle or box before you buy it. The commercial store Mobil-1 5w-40 is NOT to be used since it doesn NOT meet Mercedes specs.
But like I said, in order to have multigrade oils of any kind, viscosity extending additives are blended in. Our race cars use a straight single weight synthetic... and sometimes a racing blend syn multigrade 10w-30/40. The more the spread, the more additives there are... period... there's no other way to do it. That's why Mercedes uses Mobil-1 Formula-M 5w-40 and NOT 0w-40 from the factory.
So do what you wish... I'm sure it will be okay... but do not get the ESP Type-M whatever you do... just Formula-M.
Good luck.....
10-23-2009, 01:37 PM
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Here is a link to the Mobil-1 web page. https://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english....aspx?option=2
For GLK 350 it recommends 0W-40.
For GLK 350 it recommends 0W-40.
10-23-2009, 10:06 PM
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Here is a link to the Mobil-1 web page. https://www.mobiloil.com/usa-english....aspx?option=2
For GLK 350 it recommends 0W-40.
For GLK 350 it recommends 0W-40.
Okay... again so what? That's what MOBIL Corp. is recommending because that's the ONLY 229.5 spec oil for a 2007-2010 Gasoline Powered MBenz that you can go to any auto parts store and buy for your car right now, a 0w-40 Formula-M (229.5)! (Just don't buy any Mobil-1 oil for your Benz with "ESP".)
However what MERCEDES BENZ recommends is another Mobil-1 product.... MOBIL-1 FORMULA-M 5W-40.... and that's what's in your car right now. Unfortunately you can only buy this oil from the dealer parts store and it is almost twice as expensive.... it too meets the 229.5 spec but it is far better is some ways. (Please read the link above)
Now as I said before, you can use any weight oil in the Benz as long as you conform to the 229.5 spec... and as long as it is NOT the ESP version of the oil, which also conforms to the 229.5 spec by the way but is NOT to be used in gasoline MB engines. whew.................
10-24-2009, 04:15 AM
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Okay... again so what? That's what MOBIL Corp. is recommending because that's the ONLY 229.5 spec oil for a 2007-2010 Gasoline Powered MBenz that you can go to any auto parts store and buy for your car right now, a 0w-40 Formula-M (229.5)! (Just don't buy any Mobil-1 oil for your Benz with "ESP".)
However what MERCEDES BENZ recommends is another Mobil-1 product.... MOBIL-1 FORMULA-M 5W-40.... and that's what's in your car right now. Unfortunately you can only buy this oil from the dealer parts store and it is almost twice as expensive.... it too meets the 229.5 spec but it is far better is some ways. (Please read the link above)
Now as I said before, you can use any weight oil in the Benz as long as you conform to the 229.5 spec... and as long as it is NOT the ESP version of the oil, which also conforms to the 229.5 spec by the way but is NOT to be used in gasoline MB engines. whew.................
However what MERCEDES BENZ recommends is another Mobil-1 product.... MOBIL-1 FORMULA-M 5W-40.... and that's what's in your car right now. Unfortunately you can only buy this oil from the dealer parts store and it is almost twice as expensive.... it too meets the 229.5 spec but it is far better is some ways. (Please read the link above)
Now as I said before, you can use any weight oil in the Benz as long as you conform to the 229.5 spec... and as long as it is NOT the ESP version of the oil, which also conforms to the 229.5 spec by the way but is NOT to be used in gasoline MB engines. whew.................
Maybe something is getting lost in translation? What I am pointing out is MB-229.5 states Mobil 1 0W-40 can be used. No where in the spec with the link I've provided does it say FORMULA M 0W-40 as you continue to state. On the Mobil 1 link that I provided it does not say formula M 0W-40. You're correct that 229.5 does say formula M 5W-40. Now are you saying that 229.5 is called spec M and because 0W-40 is on it is spec M too? If so I now understand what you're saying. I'm not here to debate if 5W-40 is better than 0W-40 or if it's the factory fill. I don't know so I will take your word that it is. The bottom line is you or I can go to our local auto parts store buy 0W-40 and be within MB Spec 229.5.
10-24-2009, 07:30 AM
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2nd part.......... is right... but even though the store brand 0w-40 Formula-M does meet the 229.5 MB spec, so does the Mobil-1 ESP-Formula M 5w-40 store brand. But that doesn't necessarily mean its right for the car... because even though the ESP version meets the 229.5 spec, it is NOT for gasoline powered MB engines... it's for Diesels ONLY. This could be very confusing to those not familiar with Mobil-1 products.
If things weren't confusing enough already, please reference page 336 of the Owners Manual, and you'll see that any grade syn oil (depending on the lowest air temp.) from 0w-30 to 20w-50 can be used in your Benz as long as it meets the 229.5 spec. (However, the manual fails to state that the ESP versions are not to be used... that was the purpose of my post in the first place.)
But from my experience with cars and oil products... the greater the spread in grade, the use of more viscosity extender additives (VEA) by the manufacturer. These VEA's are not oil... and will break down faster than one with less VEA. In a way, MB indirectly says the same in the next paragraph on the same page under "Engine Oil Additives". We know they're speaking about over the counter stuff... but any additive to oil, even oil factory VEA's do the same.
10-24-2009, 10:09 AM
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I understand that you stated 5W-40 is factory fill for 2010 3.5L engines. What I was talking about was your continued reference to Formula M 0W-40. What I said was according to spec 229.5 and the Mobil-1 site I referenced there is no such animal. FYI 229.51 is the ref for diesel engines.
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anyone knows about Motul Sythetic? Sees like the beautiful oil!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
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anyone knows about Motul Sythetic? Sees like the beautiful oil!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
Magnets.... from broken hard drives..... okay.... since almost the entire engine isn't made of steel anyways...
12-07-2009, 11:00 PM
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Great info guys. I will keep it in mind
Although it will be more expensive, I'll have my GLK serviced by the dealer only. This car's service interval is quite good (~once per year). To pay a bit more to get better service/oil I think it is worth it. Besides, why cheap out on service or oil when you bought a MB?
Although it will be more expensive, I'll have my GLK serviced by the dealer only. This car's service interval is quite good (~once per year). To pay a bit more to get better service/oil I think it is worth it. Besides, why cheap out on service or oil when you bought a MB?
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Great info guys. I will keep it in mind
Although it will be more expensive, I'll have my GLK serviced by the dealer only. This car's service interval is quite good (~once per year). To pay a bit more to get better service/oil I think it is worth it. Besides, why cheap out on service or oil when you bought a MB?
Although it will be more expensive, I'll have my GLK serviced by the dealer only. This car's service interval is quite good (~once per year). To pay a bit more to get better service/oil I think it is worth it. Besides, why cheap out on service or oil when you bought a MB?
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Your dealer advices you 20,000 kms, probably taking into consideration the local climatic conditions.
Yes, other vehicles like Lexus advise on a maintenance job to be carried out every 5,000 kms
12-10-2009, 07:40 PM
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I have a periodic maintenance contract with a MB authorised service center who advice me to bring in my GLK every 15,000 kms . If this is what MB specifies then there shouldnt be any doubt or problem.
Your dealer advices you 20,000 kms, probably taking into consideration the local climatic conditions.
Yes, other vehicles like Lexus advise on a maintenance job to be carried out every 5,000 kms
Your dealer advices you 20,000 kms, probably taking into consideration the local climatic conditions.
Yes, other vehicles like Lexus advise on a maintenance job to be carried out every 5,000 kms
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anyone knows about Motul Sythetic? Sees like the beautiful oil!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
I will go get some this weekend for my first oil change...there is a private dealer in Upper Toronto area
According to him...Motul is better...than our GLK oil...but he does recommend getting the filter from the dealer...
To improve my filter...I will just go get a strong magnet...I do it all the time, anyone else???
BTW: if you happen to have a wasted hard drive...doesn't matter if it's broken, take it apart...there is a pair of STRONG!!! magnets...trust me, this little thing is way stronger beyond recognition!!!
many thanks
