Yellowish Coat on Rear Differential
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Yellowish Coat on Rear Differential
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Following the repair of engine oil drain plug (see this post) , I checked other parts underneath the car, which I have never paid attention on before. I was able to find that the real differential box was covered with thick oil. Given the thick oil covered around the fill plug, I believe that the fill plug was leaking the oil. The workshop that made the mistake on engine oil drain plug gasket also checked differential oil, I believe that they didn't apply enough torque when they closing the fill plug.
Anyway, to prove that my hypothesis that the fill plug was leaking oil was correct, I cleaned around the fill plug with WD-40 to dissolve the thick oil and scrubbed with blue shop towel... oil was dissolved by WD-40 then it showed yellowish coat. I thought that it was also residue of the oil so scrubbed it as well, but it was not easy to remove all of them. At this point, I started feeling that it might not be oil, but a coat and stopped cleaning it up. See the picture; the fill plug area was where I completely removed the yellowish coat, and you can see that some coats are still remain as I stopped removing it.
Do you know if that is coat or residue of oil? I hope that I didn't make a bad mistake which is not reversible... if that is the coat, what was the purpose and what would be the consequence not having it on the differential box?
Thank you in advance!
Following the repair of engine oil drain plug (see this post) , I checked other parts underneath the car, which I have never paid attention on before. I was able to find that the real differential box was covered with thick oil. Given the thick oil covered around the fill plug, I believe that the fill plug was leaking the oil. The workshop that made the mistake on engine oil drain plug gasket also checked differential oil, I believe that they didn't apply enough torque when they closing the fill plug.
Anyway, to prove that my hypothesis that the fill plug was leaking oil was correct, I cleaned around the fill plug with WD-40 to dissolve the thick oil and scrubbed with blue shop towel... oil was dissolved by WD-40 then it showed yellowish coat. I thought that it was also residue of the oil so scrubbed it as well, but it was not easy to remove all of them. At this point, I started feeling that it might not be oil, but a coat and stopped cleaning it up. See the picture; the fill plug area was where I completely removed the yellowish coat, and you can see that some coats are still remain as I stopped removing it.
Do you know if that is coat or residue of oil? I hope that I didn't make a bad mistake which is not reversible... if that is the coat, what was the purpose and what would be the consequence not having it on the differential box?
Thank you in advance!
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Looks like a wax coat, similar to what they put on the steering box bolt after the recall. If it feels tacky to the touch, it's definitely wax and NOT oil.
The wax coat is likely an additional layer of protection against corrosion. I'd leave it alone.
The wax coat is likely an additional layer of protection against corrosion. I'd leave it alone.
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Thank you all for the advice. Yes indeed it felt like wax. I may need to spray wax after checking the oil level. Regarding the worry about oil level, I didn’t check it yet as I didn’t have 14mm hex (going to get one today) but not worrying too much as the side where drain plug located was clean.
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#10
the yellow stuff does look like cosmoline, but I'm surprised that rear diff would be covered in it that much.
How many miles? Anything above 80k and you should replace the fluid. It's so easy, you 50% there...drain and fill until it leaks out of fill plug.
How many miles? Anything above 80k and you should replace the fluid. It's so easy, you 50% there...drain and fill until it leaks out of fill plug.
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tiny leak (if that's even happened) from fill plug is not going to empty 1 quart from the diff. You are overreacting a bit.
Your front diff has a vent and is probably covered in diff oil and only has like half a quart to begin with.
Your front diff has a vent and is probably covered in diff oil and only has like half a quart to begin with.
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Yes, I was surprised too. So the fill plug side was completely covered by dried oil and even formed a lump of dried oil in dimples. The drain plug side was relatively clean. So I could see that the oil was leaked by fill plug. I also checked for other possibilities, like lubricant from main drive shaft, but they were clean. Mine just passed 86,000 miles. I didn't consider to change the oil as the dealership said that differential oil for GLK was filled for life, but now I am thinking to change it. Thank you so much for encouraging.
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Another hypothesis is that the oil that covered differential assembly was engine oil, not differential oil.
My car leaked a huge amount of engine oil recently due to the wrong drain plug gasket used (see this post).
The oil has contaminated entire splash cover (the inside of the splash cover was like Lake Superior), so it could cover the differential too. Weird thing is that other parts around differential were clean.
Is there a way to identify if a certain oil residue is differential or engine oil?
My car leaked a huge amount of engine oil recently due to the wrong drain plug gasket used (see this post).
The oil has contaminated entire splash cover (the inside of the splash cover was like Lake Superior), so it could cover the differential too. Weird thing is that other parts around differential were clean.
Is there a way to identify if a certain oil residue is differential or engine oil?
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Another clue was that, although I forgot to take a photo before cleaning the differential assembly, the oil that covered it was completely black and dried up like lump of particles. My car is a Bluetec diesel, so the engine oil is also black unlike gas cars. I haven't seen differential oil residue or stain, but I assume that it should not be completely black...
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Yeah, it really does sound like you're making excuses not to check the level. It's easy enough to do and, worst case, you'll find it's OK. On the other hand, you might find it's nearly empty and save yourself a couple of thousand dollars.
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Waiting for the delivery of a 3/8 drive 14mm hexbit. :-)
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and, if you already have a SET, but without 14mm, then buy more complete sets 😀 13mm fasteners are extremely common in the world but, having said that, 14mm is far from rare.
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Any parts store should have them. Or, buy a coupling nut from the hardware store with 9/16 flats (3/8" nut, IIRC), stick it in the 14mm hole and use a 9/16 or 14mm socket on it.
Any parts store should have them. Or, buy a coupling nut from the hardware store with 9/16 flats (3/8" nut, IIRC), stick it in the 14mm hole and use a 9/16 or 14mm socket on it.
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Reporting the outcome here. TL;DR - the differential oil was full and clean.
Received the hex bit set today and opened the fill plug. I prepared a screw driver to "dipstick" into the differential, but it was not needed. Some amount of oil (< 1ml) immediately spilled out as I opened the fill plug. I assume that it was because the car was on the Rhinoramp slope backward, or the manufacturer filled the oil more than needed. At least the oil is full tank. The spilled oil was also very clean with some good odor (smelled like cooking oil mmm), but anyway I will change the oil soon. For now, I just fastened the plug with a torque wrench (50Nm). Now I think that it was dried engine oil that was covering differential assembly.
Thank you all for the advices!
Right. I didn't have any hex bit, so got a SET. Finding a 3/8 driver hex bit set with 14mm was very difficult. A hex bit set with 14mm was rare, and for 3/8 driver was even rarer. Some auto parts shops had only SAE ones. I tried 9/16 hex bit on the drain plug, but it didn't fit... Using coupling nut is a great idea. If I would need another size of hex bit that I don't have in the set, I will try that!
By the way, I read from many articles that said GLK front differential would not be changeable. Is that correct?
Received the hex bit set today and opened the fill plug. I prepared a screw driver to "dipstick" into the differential, but it was not needed. Some amount of oil (< 1ml) immediately spilled out as I opened the fill plug. I assume that it was because the car was on the Rhinoramp slope backward, or the manufacturer filled the oil more than needed. At least the oil is full tank. The spilled oil was also very clean with some good odor (smelled like cooking oil mmm), but anyway I will change the oil soon. For now, I just fastened the plug with a torque wrench (50Nm). Now I think that it was dried engine oil that was covering differential assembly.
Thank you all for the advices!
By the way, I read from many articles that said GLK front differential would not be changeable. Is that correct?
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Admittedly, the angle might be slight ... but I have no experience with how much of a rise the "rhino" ramps provide. Be that as it may, I'd not check oil levels if the vehicle is on a slope. 👍
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