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Old 02-07-2021, 12:58 PM
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K40 Platinum360 Radar Detection System

I recently installed the K40 Platinum360 Front and Rear Radar Detection System on my GLS450. I am super pleased with the installation and it is very discrete and hidden well for those states like Virginia. I love the ability to mark and silence false alerts (KA Ban Security Systems), along your normal commute. Also, the front and rear Laser Defusers (Jammers) are a must. There is no detection of instant-on LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging) Laser guns. The only defense is a good offense!!





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I had a similar system from AL Priority installed on my 580 a year ago. Unfortunately, I haven't done enough driving since then to really test it out but it definitely seems to false less than my previous Escort CI system. Since I live in VA, a hidden install system is the only way to go for me.
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If its not 100% accurate then whats the point.
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If its not 100% accurate then whats the point.
Ah, the Sweet Sounds of a BSM Falsing Symphony..... How can you resist?
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Ah, the Sweet Sounds of a BSM Falsing Symphony..... How can you resist?
Huh?
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Huh?
I was referring to your post about "100% accurate," assuming that the key to accuracy was no false alarms for Blind Spot Monitoring.
Continual slowing for falsing is worse than driving the speed limit at all times. Wastes time, brakes and fuel.
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I was referring to your post about "100% accurate," assuming that the key to accuracy was no false alarms for Blind Spot Monitoring.
Continual slowing for falsing is worse than driving the speed limit at all times. Wastes time, brakes and fuel.
The key to accuracy is to detect 100% of all police cars which NO system can do. Therefore you NEVER have any sense of security therefore they are pointless.

With today's laser and radar if you detect something that means the cop has already tagged you anyway.
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The key to accuracy is to detect 100% of all police cars which NO system can do. Therefore you NEVER have any sense of security therefore they are pointless.

With today's laser and radar if you detect something that means the cop has already tagged you anyway.
Both the K40 system used by the OP and the AL Priority I mentioned have laser jammers which I can tell you from experience work well. Laser is almost all the MD state police use and I've been saved a number of times over the years. Not all police have switched over to instant on radar either, so there is still good protection from radar detectors. And even with instant on, if the there is traffic ahead of you there is an early warning from the radar bouncing off the cars in front. If you're the only car in the left lane passing a string of slower traffic to the right, you're dead but in many other scenarios you are notified in time to take action for instant on.
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a couple of quick thoughts on your installation:

Are you sure the front center device is radar receiver? from the picture that looks like a 3rd laser jammer.
Which is located in ideal place for 3rd jammer.
I see the other two jammer heads on the front side are mounted behind the grill. You would see a significant compromise in laser performance.
remember, unlike radar detectors, the laser sensor/jammers require clear line of sight +/- 30 degrees left/right to perform effectively.
take a closer look at your front passenger side laser jammer head. the bubble part is where the receiver/sensor is for laser. (flat circle part has the transmitter behind).
the way it's mounted, a significant part of receiver is covered up when viewed from angle. and almost entire transmitter is covered up.
it's like shining a flashlight with your finger right in front covering it.

for the rear, the location of the jammer head is way too low. for large surface like GLS would require multiple jammer heads to adequately cover the area.
even if you move that jammer head to more ideal location like right above the license plate, it still would not be enough by itself and LEOs would easily get a reading from punch through.

take a look at this installation guide thoughts:
https://www.vortexradar.com/2016/01/...ead-placement/

i know it's for ALP system. but the same principle applies. science is science.


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Originally Posted by ksalno
I had a similar system from AL Priority installed on my 580 a year ago. Unfortunately, I haven't done enough driving since then to really test it out but it definitely seems to false less than my previous Escort CI system. Since I live in VA, a hidden install system is the only way to go for me.
I'm right down the street from you in Vienna.
I have Radenso RC-M + ALP 6 heads setup on my GLS.

for laser, ALPs are as good as it gets. rock solid.
for remote radar, Radensos are very good system, but tends to false on BSM a little more than Escort Max CI 360.
Escort's anti-falsing is so much better and mature than anything else IMO.

I have another car on its way, and for that one I'm going with Escort Max CI 360 with ALP jammer combo.
as you probably know already, adequate laser jammers in rear are absolute must in Virginia (especially on Dulles Toll Road).
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Originally Posted by madkow70
NCMountie

a couple of quick thoughts on your installation:

Are you sure the front center device is radar receiver? from the picture that looks like a 3rd laser jammer.
Which is located in ideal place for 3rd jammer.
I see the other two jammer heads on the front side are mounted behind the grill. You would see a significant compromise in laser performance.
remember, unlike radar detectors, the laser sensor/jammers require clear line of sight +/- 30 degrees left/right to perform effectively.
take a closer look at your front passenger side laser jammer head. the bubble part is where the receiver/sensor is for laser. (flat circle part has the transmitter behind).
the way it's mounted, a significant part of receiver is covered up when viewed from angle. and almost entire transmitter is covered up.
it's like shining a flashlight with your finger right in front covering it.

for the rear, the location of the jammer head is way too low. for large surface like GLS would require multiple jammer heads to adequately cover the area.
even if you move that jammer head to more ideal location like right above the license plate, it still would not be enough by itself and LEOs would easily get a reading from punch through.

take a look at this installation guide thoughts:
https://www.vortexradar.com/2016/01/...ead-placement/

i know it's for ALP system. but the same principle applies. science is science.
I called the folks who did the install and you are correct. That is a third defuser/jammer in the front. I have a call with K-40 later today on the location of the rear defuser/jammer. Hopefully, no one sneaks up from behind me... :-)
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Originally Posted by NCMountie
I called the folks who did the install and you are correct. That is a third defuser/jammer in the front. I have a call with K-40 later today on the location of the rear defuser/jammer. Hopefully, no one sneaks up from behind me... :-)
You should definitely tell your installer to relocate the two side defuser heads. they wouldn't function properly in those locations behind the grill.
I don't have a close up pictures of my jammer heads. (I can take a few for you later, if you'd like).
but zoom in to front corner intake area of my GLS. you can see the diffusers there.
the rule of thumb for laser defusers is if you can't see them clearly, they can't work properly.
you can mount them discretely, but if you put them behind something, they won't work right. remember my flashlight comparison.
and they must be mounted as close to parallel to the ground, leveled.

I didn't see this before, but here's a good article about the key things to remember when mounting laser jammers:
https://www.vortexradar.com/2016/01/...-installation/


to be honest with you, if my installer suggested behind the grill like that, I would have fired them.




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Originally Posted by NCMountie
I called the folks who did the install and you are correct. That is a third defuser/jammer in the front. I have a call with K-40 later today on the location of the rear defuser/jammer. Hopefully, no one sneaks up from behind me... :-)
I got painted by NC State trooper outside of Greensboro last year with ProLaser gun from behind.
he was parked on overpass and shot ProLaser from behind after I passed his overpass.
my jammer went off, I hit the brakes immediately. when he couldn't get the readings from his laser gun, he switched to radar, which my system picked up the warning.
but by then, I was going the posted speed limit.
He still came down the ramp and pulled up next to me and gave me a nasty look, then bugged off.

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Did you get a lot of encounters with laser?

It's unclear from your post but with Laser, you should be trying to get below the speed limit asap and then shutting your jammers off. There has been incidents where this one guy taunted the police by doing runs against them all the time. They eventually found out what was going on, got the media involved, and the state proceeded to ban jammers.

It isn't unusual for the lidar guns to take a while to lock onto a vehicle from time to time so as long as you cut it in 4 seconds, they're usually not suspicious. I know someone who left his jamming the entire time (JTG) and the cop pulled him over anyways, told him he knew what was going on, and that he visually estimated his car going 35mph over the speed limit and impounded his car and charged him with reckless driving.

As for K40 dealers, I find that they usually don't know what they're doing and will install the system in some of the worst positions possible. Same goes for Escort really. If you want a system to perform, you really got to stay on top of things. K40 performs horribly even in the best installs so they really need to be installed perfectly for you to have a good chance.
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Here's my ALP installation. I left the rears like that so I can adjust the sensor position to get the best performance as I test the setup. I need to get some perspex fabricated to hide the sensors one day.




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Originally Posted by p5657587
Did you get a lot of encounters with laser?

It's unclear from your post but with Laser, you should be trying to get below the speed limit asap and then shutting your jammers off. There has been incidents where this one guy taunted the police by doing runs against them all the time. They eventually found out what was going on, got the media involved, and the state proceeded to ban jammers.
I'm curious.
which state?
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Caused a bunch of drama when it happened among the countermeasure community lol
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Originally Posted by p5657587
Did you get a lot of encounters with laser?

It's unclear from your post but with Laser, you should be trying to get below the speed limit asap and then shutting your jammers off. There has been incidents where this one guy taunted the police by doing runs against them all the time. They eventually found out what was going on, got the media involved, and the state proceeded to ban jammers.

It isn't unusual for the lidar guns to take a while to lock onto a vehicle from time to time so as long as you cut it in 4 seconds, they're usually not suspicious. I know someone who left his jamming the entire time (JTG) and the cop pulled him over anyways, told him he knew what was going on, and that he visually estimated his car going 35mph over the speed limit and impounded his car and charged him with reckless driving.

As for K40 dealers, I find that they usually don't know what they're doing and will install the system in some of the worst positions possible. Same goes for Escort really. If you want a system to perform, you really got to stay on top of things. K40 performs horribly even in the best installs so they really need to be installed perfectly for you to have a good chance.
Hey, I live in NYC and would like to know who installed your radar detection system. I will be traveling to Chicago in a few weeks and then south to Florida in June and a radar detection system would certainly make my trip better.

Please let me know if there are any installers you would highly recommend in the Tri-State area.

Thanks.
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I have been using a eEscort 360c redline. I LOVE IT. Same range performance as my previous RedlineEX, the arrows work great and quietest BSM yet. The BSM is not perfect but I would say a 50% reduction from the Redline EX which was already the least annoying in the market in that measure. Just put it on auto and go. Truly excellent in all respects. Last week There was a multicop situation in my area, the bogey counter and arrows worked 100% accurately with miles of range! Its a very expensive detector but it really delivers, plus if you trade in your detector, its 120bucks back!
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I have been using a eEscort 360c redline. I LOVE IT. Same range performance as my previous RedlineEX, the arrows work great and quietest BSM yet. The BSM is not perfect but I would say a 50% reduction from the Redline EX which was already the least annoying in the market in that measure. Just put it on auto and go. Truly excellent in all respects. Last week There was a multicop situation in my area, the bogey counter and arrows worked 100% accurately with miles of range! Its a very expensive detector but it really delivers, plus if you trade in your detector, its 120bucks back!
Is it installed in your 580? How much was the unit and the install?
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Is it installed in your 580? How much was the unit and the install?
Its just hanging on the windshield. Since the GLS does have a lighter socket its very simple. The Redline 360c its $750 before trade in discount. Ive had numerous detectors over the decades. This one comes as close to the perfect detector as I have ever seen. Automatic GPS, arrows, bogey counter and extraordinary range, its everything in a box! The app is great for setting the detector But be warned that the phone has to be plugged in since it will drain you battery. You can add the laser ZR shifter if you with but it becomes a custom install. I had laser shifters once. Its a very pricey addition with marginal return.
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Its just hanging on the windshield. Since the GLS does have a lighter socket its very simple. The Redline 360c its $750 before trade in discount. Ive had numerous detectors over the decades. This one comes as close to the perfect detector as I have ever seen. Automatic GPS, arrows, bogey counter and extraordinary range, its everything in a box! The app is great for setting the detector But be warned that the phone has to be plugged in since it will drain you battery. You can add the laser ZR shifter if you with but it becomes a custom install. I had laser shifters once. Its a very pricey addition with marginal return.

OK. Thanks. I will check out the model. Will be driving on a couple of long interstate trips in the next couple of months, so a radar detector is in order
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Originally Posted by Paxfobiscum
Hey, I live in NYC and would like to know who installed your radar detection system. I will be traveling to Chicago in a few weeks and then south to Florida in June and a radar detection system would certainly make my trip better.

Please let me know if there are any installers you would highly recommend in the Tri-State area.

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Mine was installed by Eddie at Detailing Dynamics. He's great for decent budget installs.

If you want to go all out with custom fabricated parts and stuff, then you can try JK Automotive Designs in MA. That install will be really expensive but everything will look like it came stock from the factory.

Laser protection requires a lot of testing and adjustments to get perfect so it made no sense for me to pay 15k custom fabricating everything.
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Note that the cable is nicely hidden behind the display.

Escort redline 360c.
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Note that the cable is nicely hidden behind the display.

Escort redline 360c.
Looks great! How do you like the unit?


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