Brake HOLD feature
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Brake HOLD feature
I could've sworn when I bought my 2024 GLS 450 in December that I had tested to see if the vehicle had the "golf cart" brake feature for red lights, etc. and it didn't.
This week I accidentally pressed down on the brake pedal strongly and I see the word HOLD next to the fuel level on the dash, and the car doesn't move. Golf cart braking...
Was this done via some software update or is this a feature I thought I checked for but am losing my mind?
This week I accidentally pressed down on the brake pedal strongly and I see the word HOLD next to the fuel level on the dash, and the car doesn't move. Golf cart braking...
Was this done via some software update or is this a feature I thought I checked for but am losing my mind?
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It's been a feature for years. But it's unlike most every other manufacturer's auto hold, in that it requires an extra push of the pedal to activate it, whereas the others just apply it automatically when you come to a stop. I dislike having to look at the dash to see if it's activated before removing my foot from the pedal.
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It's been a feature for years. But it's unlike most every other manufacturer's auto hold, in that it requires an extra push of the pedal to activate it, whereas the others just apply it automatically when you come to a stop. I dislike having to look at the dash to see if it's activated before removing my foot from the pedal.
Acura - button to activate/disable. Doesn't persist into the next restart of car.
BMW - button to activate/disable. Does persist until turned off. I've had my X3 start groaning because I forgot it was activated when entering a car wash!
Mercedes - activates when pushing brakes firmly a 2nd time. Disables when you hit the gas pedal. I prefer this method because I would never have it active when entering a car wash (ever)!
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It's been a feature for years. But it's unlike most every other manufacturer's auto hold, in that it requires an extra push of the pedal to activate it, whereas the others just apply it automatically when you come to a stop. I dislike having to look at the dash to see if it's activated before removing my foot from the pedal.
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To be honest, I can't ever imagine someone engaging Brake Hold on purpose when the Mercedes is sitting on the conveyor belt. Any push of the gas pedal to get onto the conveyor belt automatically disengages Brake Hold!
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I do not want anybody activating my brakes without my permission.
You may be talking about Hill Hold, which is different. I miss it from my earlier Mercedes cars.
But I definitely like their application of the Hold function.
Different strokes.....
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I actually prefer Mercedes' "on demand Brake Hold" method compared to other manufacturers.
Acura - button to activate/disable. Doesn't persist into the next restart of car.
BMW - button to activate/disable. Does persist until turned off. I've had my X3 start groaning because I forgot it was activated when entering a car wash!
Mercedes - activates when pushing brakes firmly a 2nd time. Disables when you hit the gas pedal. I prefer this method because I would never have it active when entering a car wash (ever)!
Acura - button to activate/disable. Doesn't persist into the next restart of car.
BMW - button to activate/disable. Does persist until turned off. I've had my X3 start groaning because I forgot it was activated when entering a car wash!
Mercedes - activates when pushing brakes firmly a 2nd time. Disables when you hit the gas pedal. I prefer this method because I would never have it active when entering a car wash (ever)!
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The 2024 auto stop is so aggressive that it turns the car off when its still moving. And then there is a huge delay to get going again. Its insane and probably putting a ton of wear on the engine for absolutely ZERO benefit.
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I much prefer that to having somebody turn off my engine without my permission.
The 2024 auto stop is so aggressive that it turns the car off when its still moving. And then there is a huge delay to get going again. Its insane and probably putting a ton of wear on the engine for absolutely ZERO benefit.
The 2024 auto stop is so aggressive that it turns the car off when its still moving. And then there is a huge delay to get going again. Its insane and probably putting a ton of wear on the engine for absolutely ZERO benefit.
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I much prefer that to having somebody turn off my engine without my permission.
The 2024 auto stop is so aggressive that it turns the car off when its still moving. And then there is a huge delay to get going again. Its insane and probably putting a ton of wear on the engine for absolutely ZERO benefit.
The 2024 auto stop is so aggressive that it turns the car off when its still moving. And then there is a huge delay to get going again. Its insane and probably putting a ton of wear on the engine for absolutely ZERO benefit.
The auto stop while moving is when it’s transitioning from gas to electric. Even leaving a parking lot slowly might be all electric mode until you get to a speed threshold!
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Curious which Honda products do this. Before my GLS I drove MDXs (last being 2020) and about three weeks ago I bought a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. In both cases the Auto Idle Engine Stop feature comes on at each ignition start and you have to push the button each time to cancel the feature. With the 20 MDX the off/on jerkiness was improved over my 17 MDX. The Ridgeline, not so much. I hardly notice the off/on in my GLS. And since this thread started about the Brake Hold, I like it very much, although there are times when it doesn't engage.
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It could very well be me in that I don't always think about the hold feature, and may be stopped a few seconds before I try to engage.
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Curious which Honda products do this. Before my GLS I drove MDXs (last being 2020) and about three weeks ago I bought a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. In both cases the Auto Idle Engine Stop feature comes on at each ignition start and you have to push the button each time to cancel the feature. With the 20 MDX the off/on jerkiness was improved over my 17 MDX. The Ridgeline, not so much. I hardly notice the off/on in my GLS. And since this thread started about the Brake Hold, I like it very much, although there are times when it doesn't engage.
I can't imagine parent company Honda not following suit since fuel economy is so important and auto journalists typically review based on the default setting!
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Curious which Honda products do this. Before my GLS I drove MDXs (last being 2020) and about three weeks ago I bought a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. In both cases the Auto Idle Engine Stop feature comes on at each ignition start and you have to push the button each time to cancel the feature. With the 20 MDX the off/on jerkiness was improved over my 17 MDX. The Ridgeline, not so much. I hardly notice the off/on in my GLS. And since this thread started about the Brake Hold, I like it very much, although there are times when it doesn't engage.
As I said I much prefer this to the opposite system on MB where the engine stops at 5mph (no exaggeration).
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There are different strategies employed by the manufacturers depending on pure ICE, MHEV or PHEV etc. All in the name of meeting emissions and fuel regulations. Auto stop/start can in fact save fuel and reduce emissions. Engineering Explained did a very good video on the subject if interested, and it does provide more favorable MPG numbers with the standardized homologation tests. If the manufacturer uses auto start/stop in the homologation tests to make the numbers, then they are obliged to turn it on by default and the driver is only allowed to explicitly defeat it by pressing a button. There are actually regulations around this. As said, at the end of the day it's about meeting the regulations.
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