I see no evidence of that. You seem not to be able to differentiate what you write from what others write, and end up arguing with yourself.
Now you're confusing your comments about a rear axle with your own comments about front axles.

Must be difficult for you at a restaurant. Moreso for the wait staff, though.
I can see it now: "Here's your water." "But I ordered water." "That's water." "It's not water because water comes in a glass." "That's a glass." "No it's a pail. You keep moving the goalposts. LOL" "Would you rather have a pail?" "No, I like this glass just fine! You stupid waiter. Bring me my pail. Water is never served in a glass. LOL."

 

LOL, whatever you say.

 

Back to "should I tow with my GLS" -

I also find my GLE to be superior in crosswind stability while towing.

On a drive on I-70 eastbound through Kansas, towing my 28' 6,000# RV, into front quartering winds w/ gusts to 65, there were several spots with semi's on their sides. Three here, four there.
Scattered amongst them were a few RVs, also on their sides. ALL had been towed by 3/4T or larger Pickups.

Ahead I could see other pickups with trailers, barely able to stay on the pavement, much less In their Lane.
My GLE felt the gusts, but I had no trouble staying in my lane.

I generally drive with the Cruise set at 64, since mpg falls a lot at 68. I slowed to 55, but only because mpg had fallen to 10, and I needed 12 to make it to the next fuel stop.
We spent our time calculating fuel supply, not trying to correct 20 foot veers off pavement, like the others I could see. They should have just pulled off

More evidence that a Stout Euro SUV is superior to pickups for towing, within their limits.
Better suspensions, better suspension geometry, better rear overhang, grippier tires - just better all around.

 

My 2020 GLS has the Crosswind Assist feature that "helps keep the vehicle stable and on course, particularly on highways and exposed bridges where wind exposure is significant." I assume your GLE has the same feature.

 

Yes it does. That was on my '14 Diesel, which I think had the same feature.
As I understand it, it uses rear brakes to correct. Whatever it is, it's imperceptible.

Edit - that car had steel springs and the 166 chassis. The 167 has a noticably better chassis.

I haven't towed anything bigger than a 4,400 lb U-Haul trailer with my 167 air suspension, since my RV was totaled by hail.

 

This is a joke. Are you delusional?

1500s are born and bred TO tow.

Wanna tow an 8k lb boat, gear, and family with your GLE all over the country or use it every weekend for 10 years versus a 1500 with that boat and see which one falls apart first (literally and figuratively)? It won't be the Ram.

Why do you think they sell millions of Tahoes and Expeditions?

Come on folks, let's get real here. A BOF truck's reason for being is work, towing. They're just so nice and modern and luxurious these days they double for great DDs too.

 

I would never tow an 8,000 lb load all over the country with the half ton pickup.
They're inadequate and unsafe.

And yes I've towed an 8,000 7,000 lb load with both.

Half tons are okay as long as you don't need to stop, turn or go around corners. Heaven forbid something happens in front of you and you have to take evasive actions.

Pickups start becoming effective tow vehicles at 3/4 ton or maybe one ton these days.
As long as you don't have to turn stop or take evasive actions. Plus there's so much chassis flex that everything wears out.
You'd be far better off in a half ton van then a 3/4 ton pickup.
Tahoes and Expeditions are much better than half ton pickups, again because of the chassis flex. The full body helps overcome the body on frame deficiencies.

Better yet, a stout SUV. That can do all of the above easily. No chassis flex. Shorter rear overhang, better physics. Bigger brakes.

It's evidence, not legend.

 

1500's were born and bred to avoid emissions and crash standards.

That made them cheaper and attractive to a whole generation of people who didn't want to pay for regulatory requirements.

That's why the F-150 is the biggest selling vehicle. Not because of towing.

 

I mean did a Ram 1500 hit and run your car ? Lol

 

LOL, you’re so full of it.

BOF SUV bodies are not structural. The frame is where the towing load is pulled. You could remove the body from the frame and the towing capacity would remain the same.

Again ask ANYBODY who seriously tows none of them would ever choose a unibody 6 cyl SUV to tow over a 1/2 ton pickup. Go anywhere people seriously tow and ask them. They will laugh you out of the parking lot.

 

You might read the airstream forums.
Check out the experience of Can-Am RV on their website and watch their testing.
Better yet tow something serious with your SUV. Other RV forums are abandoning half tons and going up-capacity.

I stop at 7,000 lbs. (Limited only by payload.) If I needed to tow more, It would have to be a one-ton - certainly not half ton.
Or a 3/4T van, Excursion or Suburban, which are significantly stiffer stronger better than a pickup. Because their bodies contribute to the structure.

My puny 210hp (400lb-ft) ML diesels (and a diesel Cayenne) had no trouble pulling the biggest passes in Colorado.
(Descending is where pickups start running into problems. Brakes steering switchbacks.)

 

I don’t have an SUV, but if I did any serious towing regularly I would buy a Yukon or Tahoe. Wouldn’t even consider a GLS or GLE.

 

You'll just have to live without knowledge then.
At least you're not relying on your strongest recommendation, a half ton pickup. Yielding to wisdom?

 

I have a 2020 Ram with a 5.7 Hemi. Love the truck. Interior is the best in its class. I just did a simple google search and got this back.

 

That's ludicrous. How are they inadequate??? Unsafe? I'd love to hear this one.

Apparently you haven't because you'd know an ACTUAL TRUCK is superior for hard work.

Are you the one likening 1500s to WORLD WAR ONE? IDK if you've noticed but that was over 100 years ago. Full size truck suspensions have come a long way over the last century, believe it or not.

Dude you don't know what you're talking about.

Chassis flex??? Are you aware that these are these things called BODY ON FRAME vehicles? Do you know what that is? It's the stoutest form of construction for a production vehicle. You don't need to worry about chassis flex. You do need to worry about the extreme stress towing a 7000lb boat would have on a unibody platform not cut out for towing. People don't flock to GLEs to tow heavy things, they want a nice luxury crossover that could handle some jet skis or a small travel trailer no problem. And that it will.

And so now you're also saying a Yukon is ideal for towing but a full zoot Sierra Denali isn't? If that's the case then why is the tow rating higher for the pickup truck and not the SUV? If the truck is gonna just wiggle apart as you claim why do they have such impressive tow ratings?

Why don't I see countless GLE Mercedes towing boats all over the place? And why DO I see 1500s pulling boats, substantial ones at that, all over the place??

It's not just me on this planet that knows trucks are best for towing.

 

I would choose the SUV because I need the passenger and cargo room and the form factor of an SUV when using it day to day. I don’t need or want a pickup truck. Has nothing to do with capability, as we have already said there is no difference in towing rigidity between the two because they have the same steel frame and the body is just bolted on top of the frame.

All I have to do is look at what people who tow serious things use. What is being used to tow horse trailers? Big boats? Fifth wheel RVs? It’s not midsized unibody crossovers lol

This guy is full of it

 

Since the crew here believes that everything on the Internet is true, here are some more Truths for you all.


About the "no flex" body on frame claims -

https://youtu.be/_f3CAnH7WIM?si=KMIPbewvY--qvdBu

Don't argue with me. It's on the Internet!

And for those who don't believe in current evidence, this will reinforce your beliefs:

🤣

 

Lol I don't need the internet to tell me a domestic 1500 will be vastly superior in towing a heavy load over a crossover.

I still don't get people who won't admit weaknesses in their vehicles... it's not even really a weakness in this case because the last thing on 99% of buyers minds is towing regularly, heavy loads in a Mercedes crossover.

My LS430's transmission takes too much to kick down and it's not lightning fast throttle-response wise like a GM trans.

My LX570 has weak A/C.

My Yukon Denali has B pillars that are too large, and the a/c is fantastic and powerful but you have to set the temp too low for cold cold air as opposed to leaving it on 72 in everything else I own with auto A/C.

My SL500 has a few crappy bits inside like a mirror cover that broke off, which is annoying because otherwise it's as good inside as my LS430 build wise.

It's okay to admit your vehicle isn't the jack of every single trade.

Go to a boat ramp and count 1500s then count crossovers like that.

 

You clearly haven't read my comments. Most who argue here are arguing with themselves, not my actual statements. An imaginary argument.

(I specifically said "within their limits," repeatedly.) Note that phrase please. Or don't, since most here haven't....

They argue about Crossovers, but a 167 is a RWD design.
They seem to think that a 20 foot beam has greater bend and torsion strength than a finite-designed Unibody of the same or shorter length. It's just not true, or we'd see 747s plummeting from the skies.

They dismiss the difficulty that 3/4T pickups have on negotiating corners or staying upright in heavy crosswinds as Driver Error.

Yes a 1T pickup has brakes almost as powerful as a GLS. Half tons and most 3/4 tons don't. Then there's the matter of tires - pickups are equipped with tires for high mileage and other truck-like qualities, while SUV tires are designed more for traction and handling. Compare stopping distances and skid pad numbers.
Oh, wait! Earlier I've recommended sources that support my observations. Why bother if they have their minds made up?

There's no way a pickup of any specification can perform an evasive maneuver with an at-capacity trailer behind.

Folks keep telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about, but I actually do, although my most recent modern pickup towing experience was with a '17 model. As I posted above.

I drove a tow/chase vehicle for the Carerra Panamericana. In preparation we had equipped a 1Ton pickup. We decided in the final month of prep that it wasn't up to the task (2,000 miles through Mexico with trailer, at speed), so we switched to a used 3/4T E250 van. The van body gave the tow platform the strength that the body-less pickup lacked.

The towing experience is just superior with a stout Euro SUV. As it is on the track. Suspensions and chassis rigidity matter in all scenarios.

Note to deniers: body-on-frame is also called a chassis.🙂

With a pickup, a trailer is something behind you.
With SUVs, they behave as a unit.

That swerve to avoid the collision in front while simultaneously avoiding cars on adjacent lanes is very impressive.
SUV: Wow That was an impressive amount of control.
Pickup: Honey, where's our insurance card?

Let's not get into the methods Euro SUVs tow ratings are established. They're different. At least we finally have the SAE J2807 standards, but there are some noteworthy shortcomings, even in the revised current version. The Euro ratings have shortcomings as well.

How many of the "Gotta be a primitive chassis" proponents have dual experience? None so far.

So there is a tradeoff if your needs are to tow beyond sn SUVs capacity.
You just live with a heavy missile and (should) leave extra leeway to accommodate their inability to change direction or stop when needed. Just be aware.

 

No, you don't know WTF you're talking about. You're just a typical Mercedes fanboy.

If you're so right then why do 1500s sell at all? Why do I never see GLEs towing boats?

Why isn't there a basic GLE work truck for all of us not as wise as you if they do everything a truck does better??

You reallllly lost credibility with the whole "WW1 suspension" thing. Not that you had any to begin with.

Dude call a spade a spade. Am I saying a 1500 will track down the autobahn at 130MPH as well as a Benz? Hell no. But it's a damn sight better vehicle for towing on the reg.

 

You realize that you are on the internet and you’re trying to make us believe you right? The argument “don’t believe what you read on the internet” from you makes no sense.

Again…just go look at what people who tow serious loads use. That’s not the internet that’s reality.

And those trucks you posted are 2009 models. It’s 2025. Everything is much more rigid now including truck frames.

 

Good job recognizing that it was an internet post.
Bad job at interpreting data.
Even poorer job of checking my references.
Good job of disparaging valid information and opinion because you disagree.
Bad job at reading my posts.

That's my opinion. That's my experience. Go hang with your cronies.

 

You haven’t shown us any data at all lol

 

Repeat: Bad job of reading my posts.
Good job of attacking your keyboard.
Breathe.

 

I’m breathing just fine lol. You’re full of **** as everybody else has also pointed out.