Bigdot

i was comming home the otherweekend on the 73 north and there was this s55 driveing along. i pulled nexto him and he slowly starerts to accelerate from 70-85 and then punches it. so as do I. i seemed to pull away from him untill 125 then we both quit. i was astonished at the fact that i was keeping up with an S55. i know that the 0-60 is verry fast (for the size) but i thougt that it would eat me on the FRW with those 493 or so HPs. but it did not. is my race a real win? or did he not kick it down???

Vomit

You likely raced a 2002 model.

Thericker

No way he would even pull on a S500 let alone any model S55 00'-05'
The 1994 SL500 has about 12 more hp and 5 more feet lbs of torque and weighs the same as 00-05 S500 that IDDY BIDDY difference in hp + to will not give him the described advantage he reported. His encounter sadly had to of been with A) re-badged S430 or B) the guy wasn't even racing him, didn't even know he was there.

Bigdot

the guy was going and it was a real 55 from what i saw. (quad ehghaust and bodykit and the kompresser stuff on the side.) from the 0-60 the S55 only beats me by lik3 .3ish seconds. but whats the 0-100? or the 60 -100. I run 0-100 in the higher 13s.

Bigdot

ok i just got some numbers on the S500

2004 S500
0-60 (6.1-6.3)
0-100(14.2-14.5 one site said 15.1)

i run

0-60 (5.8-6.0)
0-100 (13.6-13.8)

ok so the S55

0-60 (4.5)
0-100 like 10ish

he had paper dealer plates so maby he didnt hit the kick down butten??

reguardless he would have one if he was a 55. but a 500?? i dont think so, but ive never raced one. but when i do ill let all of you know. ok?/


mark

PS the 430 runs in the low 7s very high 6s

mark

Thericker

If your car isn't supercharged your sadly mistaken on those figures
Also an AMG bodykit and some badges+ chrome tipps don't mean it's the real deal necessarily, and from the outcome of what you might have mistaken for a race would have left you in the DUST! by 20+ car lenghts if it was the real deal 03- up S55, DREAM ON if your car is stock! you sound rediculous.

Bigdot

IF YOU read my second post..... you wold have figured out that i corrected my self. ****

mark

p.s (chip, intake, exghaust)

Bigdot

read the second to the last sentence. ok????

Bigdot

o i did race an 04 CL500 like 3 times and won. not by a whole lot but i did win and he did go all the way because he is my good friend.

CDP

when we meet mark, I demand a ride in your red goose.

Bigdot

ill let you sit in her.....maby.... ha!! ill take you for a spin.

Thericker

Autotrader lists a 1997, same specs as your 1994 performance chart
1997 SL500 //////////// 2000-current S500
0-60 6.4 seconds///////////// 0-60 6.1 seconds
hp 315 @ 5600 rpm///////////// hp 302 @ 5600 rpm
to 345 @ 3900 rpm///////////// to 339 @ 2700 rpm
curb weight 4165lbs///////////// curb weight 4160lbs

With your mods you might pick up .3 tenths of a second I say might!
Where your engine is lacking compared to the S500 is YOUR inferior Torque curve, your torque doesn't come on until 3900 rpm while the 2000-up S500 hits it at a mere 2700 rpm's. It obviously shows the difference this torque can make in 0-60 comparisons, from the REAL performance qoutes I gathered.
Anytime you want to run against my S500 I'll be happy to accomadate you and since you think your performance mods have thrown you into the 5.8-5.9 range you shouldn't have a problem w/mine Powewrchiped, and cat-back AMG quadtipped exhaust w/stock intake and filters

NOTKTS

RedGoose, IMO you can whoop the S500 but the guy might of been re-badged with a AMG exhaust...

Thericker

Performance quotes I just posted? This question is not meant in a deragatory sense, as I can clearly see you know performance cars and have some DAMN nice autos in your stable.

Bigdot

i would love to race you ( im saying this in a nice tone) when ever you see my SL with the licence plate that has my name on it MARK CH. please tell me who you are and wheel let the streets speak for them selfs. lol but i hope that we are not enemies over this becasue this thread was not ment to make enemys, just clarify that an S55 is infact faster than my car. and what did MARK CH learn? that it is. but a S500? i dont know yet................ but i did beat a CL500. i thought that the CLs were faster than the S klass?! but i know more about old mercedes then newones.......

Mark

Bigdot

that info is BS. they changed the engine in 1996 from 315hp to 302 for emitions. and MBZ says that the 0-60 on a STOCK SL is 6.2 and im sure everyone knows that MBZ always over estimated there 0-60s

and if you can, please post the stats of your car from the same website for me too.

thankyou
mark


PS. the hard top adds about 80 LBS.

mark

Thericker

The info is ligit not BS! go check it out at Autotrader.com and look up 1997 SL500 then look at the technical spec list....I live in Santa Barbara, about 2 hours from you, when possible lets try and meet. As far as the stats on my car, there straight outta the Mercedes broshure go pick one up at your local dealership, I would think your car would perform pretty good at highway speeds since that is where your peak torque kicks in, I'd love to race ya and find out just what they'll do both from a roll at highway speed, and then from a stop light

NOTKTS

How about I race both of you?? . I'll let you get a 2.5 second jump on me? LoL,j/p.
How much rwhp does the AMG exhaust add to the 500? Also remeber to bring a video camera, this should be a good one.

Bigdot

the info is total BS

THE ENGINE CHANGE WAS IN 1996, THEY CHANGED THE FUEL INJECTION COMPANY IN ACCOARDENCE WITH THE TIGHTER POLUTION LAWS IN USA....
ALSO, IN 1997 THAT SL HAS 5 GEARS, I HAVE FOUR SO THE GEAR RATIO WOULD BE A LOT DIFFRENCE. how about this, i vidio tape me raceing against an S500 and a CL500 at once.. will that surffice??? ill run 91 octane and ill keep the hardtop on........... isnt the CL500 faster than the S500 any way???

mark

Bigdot

i heard from a MBZ machanic that exghaust (AMG BrABB. LOR) on the new cars 1996and up does not add any HP maby like 1-3. but dont yell at me if im wrong please. its just what i herd

mark

CDP

Damn Right.

It's true about how Mercedes does over rate their 0-60 times. For example the CL65...rated 4.2 by MB. Motor Trend tested the car and got 3.8. soooo....ha. Don't know where I'm going with this.

Bigdot

BOOOM!!!

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0106_s500/

IT SAYS 6.5!!!

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/oney...mb/index3.html

IT SAYS 6.0



STOCK MY CAR HAS 315 HP AND 347 TQ
Mercedes-Benz S500 (2001)
By Matt/Bob Hagin

SPECIFICATIONS

Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price $ 78,950
Price As Tested $ 93,305
Engine Type SOHC 24-valve 5.0 Liter V8 w/SMFI*
Engine Size 303 cid/4966 cc
Horsepower 302 @ 5500 RPM
Torque (lb-ft) 339 @ 4250 RPM
Wheelbase/Width/Length 121.5"/73.1"/203.1"
Transmission Five-speed automatic
Curb Weight 4308 pounds
Fuel Capacity 23.2 gallons
Tires (F/R) 225/60R16 all-season
Brakes (F/R) Disc (ABS)/disc (ABS)
Drive Train Front-engine/rear-wheel-drive
Vehicle Type Five-passenger/four-door
Domestic Content N/A
Coefficient of Drag (Cd.) 0.28

PERFORMANCE

EPA Economy, miles per gallon
city/highway/average 16/23/20
0-60 MPH 6.5 seconds
1/4 (E.T.) 14.0 seconds @ 100.5 mph
Top-speed (Electronically limited) 130 mph
* Sequential multi-port fuel injection

Thericker

You grab your 04'SL500 and race him to, according to Autotrader.com your 04' has the same HP, and TORQUE, and curb weight, and 0-60 as my 01' S500

Bigdot

ive acualy beet an R230 500 in the redmongoose. we took it to 80 and i was 1/4 car lenght infrunt.

mark

Thericker

OK this is getting stupid motor trend stats are wack why don't you believe Autotrader.com?
or the most reliable source you have been quoting MERCEDES DEALERSHIP BROCHURE????? the curb weight is BS FROM MOTOR DORKS AND SO IS EVERYTHING ELSE YOU PUT UP! the rpm range please guy do some more home work before you start spewing the lowest performance data you could find on the internet....And lastly lets just solve this the way I said I'll meet you somewhere in between your place and mine ok? and yes the AMG exhaust does give more than 2-3 hp. Stock S500 exhaust pipes are only 2" -2 1/2" wide where the AMG have much bigger diameter 3 1/2" pipes and much more free flowing mufflers if you doubt it lets find out and quit this could've would've ****!