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Old 06-03-2005, 04:04 PM
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2001 C240 Tectite
Originally Posted by delbomber


Finally, a rational argument. But these engines are intercooled, mitigating the otherwise increased heatsoak effect of a supercharger.
Heatsoak comes form the stock intercooler that, even if it's an MB, is really poor. some users from the other forum have tried to add a larger intercooler, one form renntech but reported HP loss, I believe someone tried to install a water to air intercooler or a water mist system but I don't remember the results... You can clearly see the effect on ctc230k's dynos when the torque goes down to 110 at a 7000rpm peak. so unless you drive your car at redline all the time whe it's hot outside your car might even drop under 100 torque. you will especially notice this if you try to accelerate going uphill. You'll understand what I mean. I mean on the dyno HP might look good but it's not moving any weight at all. now add the sport package with larger and heavier brakes, larger and heavier wheels, we're talking about a lot of unsprung weight here, that's why ctc230ks dyno shows him at a much lower HP than the MB numbers.


ps: don't forget that on ctc230k dynos he had K&N upgraded filters, that's a reported 3-5 hp gain over stock...

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From the looks of your license plate trim, you're already playing
yeh, i weighed that decision carefully and even asked around to see if it was poserish. I dont think you can compare it to rebadging tho, its a license plate frame, doesnt make any claims about the car type itself (like a badge inherently does, thats the purpose of a badge) just is a reference to my tastes in cars. I had an audisport logo on my A4, but thats not the same as S4 rebadging.
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Originally Posted by Narcissus
Heatsoak comes form the stock intercooler that, even if it's an MB, is really poor. some users from the other forum have tried to add a larger intercooler, one form renntech but reported HP loss, I believe someone tried to install a water to air intercooler or a water mist system but I don't remember the results... You can clearly see the effect on ctc230k's dynos when the torque goes down to 110 at a 7000rpm peak. so unless you drive your car at redline all the time whe it's hot outside your car might even drop under 100 torque. you will especially notice this if you try to accelerate going uphill. You'll understand what I mean. I mean on the dyno HP might look good but it's not moving any weight at all. now add the sport package with larger and heavier brakes, larger and heavier wheels, we're talking about a lot of unsprung weight here, that's why ctc230ks dyno shows him at a much lower HP than the MB numbers.


ps: don't forget that on ctc230k dynos he had K&N upgraded filters, that's a reported 3-5 hp gain over stock...
This really isn't the forum for this

...but his Torque peaked at 145, not 110. And it was at 7500 rpm, way off from MB's spec. I think ct's dyno is hardly representative of all C230s.
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2001 C240 Tectite
Originally Posted by delbomber
This really isn't the forum for this

...but his Torque peaked at 145, not 110. And it was at 7500 rpm, way off from MB's spec. I think ct's dyno is hardly representative of all C230s.

Ahh yes sorry, you are right, I was referring to his 110 torque at his HP peak....
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Ahh yes sorry, you are right, I was referring to his 110 torque at his HP peak....
No worries...we all make mistakes from time to time...

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lolol!!! this thread is so crazy, now you guys are arguing about who should "let go" first!!! HAHAH :p

and how did my dyno's come into this?
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You are making us all look like VW owners.
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Sheesh. All this moaning and groaning over 2 SLOW *** cars that weren't even designed to race. I've owned a few with my daily 2-liter diesel 1-series for crying out loud.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
yes, a C23.
WTF

trying to strip of weight so your car wont be slower than grandma's C240?

Come on... either buy the amg badge and not he plate frame or put the bloody 0 back on. That looks terrible.
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Originally Posted by CynCarvin32
WTF

trying to strip of weight so your car wont be slower than grandma's C240?

Come on... either buy the amg badge and not he plate frame or put the bloody 0 back on. That looks terrible.
Now now kiddies, Ill take you both =P my 6500LBs suv will put you to shame
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Originally Posted by Militant-Grunt
Now now kiddies, Ill take you both =P my 6500LBs suv will put you to shame
Yeah right.. like your ML55 can beat an AMG C23

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Now now kiddies, Ill take you both =P my 6500LBs suv will put you to shame
Haha, sad but true, i'd race you round a road course
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bump for best kill ever
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c230 vs c240 4MATIC

This is the classic story about the race between the tortise and the...tortise?

I wanna read about an SLR driven to the brink.
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Originally Posted by ctC230K
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You're a retard.

Next thing we know you'll be bragging about burning a corvette on his spare tire.


tardjar

Bragging about a 4matic, we're the one laughing, the c230k barely beat a c240 4 matic with like, 80% drivetrain loss

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C240 vs. C230??
Thats like crap telling poop it stinks!!!

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Originally Posted by Stiggs
C240 vs. C230??
Thats like crap telling poop it stinks!!!


...according to this thread, shiit would argue it smells better than both! :p


Why, why, why are people arguing about the C-230 and 240? Way too much idle time on our hands fellas.

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