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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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C320 vs Margnum RT

Yesterday afternoon me and the GF were on our way to my parents in the suburbs when a Magnum RT blows by me. We were coming up on a section of road where you dont have to worry about cops so much so i figured i'd play with him. so i kinda chase him down just as the light turns red. i wasnt planning on racing him. the light turned green and we both slowly accelerated. get up to about 10mph and i hear his exhaust roar so i figured..."whatever". i floored it and easily walked away from him. let off at about 75ish and had a good 4 cars on him if not more. i was told that an RT is a HEMI but i figured they were faster. i dont think his 22" bling helped him much either.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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LOL yeah...

2001 C320 - 215hp/220tq

2005 Magnum RT 5.7 HEMI - 345hp/375tq


Having both the HEMI and the C320 in my stable, I have to tell you....he just did not see you there trying to race him.

If this is not enough:

C320 0-60 - 7.5 seconds
HEMI 0-60 - 5.6 seconds

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

he probably didn't want to waste gas on you... With all due respect to the almighty C320, it is not a speed racer, where as the 5.7L HEMI is a force to be reckoned with.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by slk320
LOL yeah...

2001 C320 - 215hp/220tq

2005 Magnum RT 5.7 HEMI - 345hp/375tq


Having both the HEMI and the C320 in my stable, I have to tell you....he just did not see you there trying to race him.

If this is not enough:

C320 0-60 - 7.5 seconds
HEMI 0-60 - 5.6 seconds

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

he probably didn't want to waste gas on you... With all due respect to the almighty C320, it is not a speed racer, where as the 5.7L HEMI is a force to be reckoned with.

i agree.

a magnum w/a 5.7 hemi will smoke a c320 even if he/she had 48" rims
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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You must have raced the V6 version. Good kill anyways.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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Was probably a fake RT. Rebadging is very popular with the el-cheapo 22" rim crowd on the magnum and 300 around here. I don't know why they put that junk on those cars, they ride so high afterwards that they look like short busses.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 11:58 PM
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thats what i thought guys... i know that HEMI isnt supposed to be slow. it said RT on the back but dont they also have a HEMI badge along with the RT? All it said was RT...no HEMI.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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Actually there are some slower Hemis out there. I guess the production tolerances are very lenient over at DCX. I've seen Hemis run everything from low 14's to mid 15's, in the exact same conditions.

I know I know, hard to digest info like that, especially for a Hemi owner, but some of the earlier models just aren't that fast. That's besides the ringer Car & Driver got that turned a 13.8 quarter mile.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Roupin
Actually there are some slower Hemis out there. I guess the production tolerances are very lenient over at DCX. I've seen Hemis run everything from low 14's to mid 15's, in the exact same conditions.

I know I know, hard to digest info like that, especially for a Hemi owner, but some of the earlier models just aren't that fast. That's besides the ringer Car & Driver got that turned a 13.8 quarter mile.

Thats actually very true, and HEMI enthuasiast know that... but they are still faster then the C320

Anyway, as far as the "HEMI" badges, they are not on the rear of the Magnum, but rather on the sides, on the front fenders, to be precise; and they are very small.

It most likely was a re-badge job though, or he was not really trying. You mentioned that you heard his exhaust - probably would not have happened with a V6, unless he had custom pipes.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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I can tell you the 300c has some power to it. I drive my friend's 300 all the time. The only problem is the torque management system.
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Old Aug 29, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by slk320
Thats actually very true, and HEMI enthuasiast know that... but they are still faster then the C320

Anyway, as far as the "HEMI" badges, they are not on the rear of the Magnum, but rather on the sides, on the front fenders, to be precise; and they are very small.

It most likely was a re-badge job though, or he was not really trying. You mentioned that you heard his exhaust - probably would not have happened with a V6, unless he had custom pipes.
your most probably right about the rebadge. i didnt see the badges on the front fender...but i may have been distracted by the 3 big chrome "vents" cut out of the front fenders. i think it was a rebadge with flowmasters or something because it sounded like he was WOT. either way it was still funny when the GF asked why somebody in a station wagon was trying to race. i let her know that it wasn't just any old station wagon...apparently it was a fake, fast station wagon.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Even the V6 version of the Magnum has more HP than the C320.

This is sounding like a crap story. I've had HEMI powered 300's for important business trips, when I can justify the extra rental expense, and I can tell you honestly that there is no way the C320 is going to put the smack down on a V8 Dodge. With 4 people in the car, we were still winning the stop light drags against anyone who wanted to play.

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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Yeah mustve been the v6 mag. Those wagons are rare here but the 300c sedans v6 are all over. Want to run my c36? I will give you a headstart.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rpayer
Yesterday afternoon me and the GF were on our way to my parents in the suburbs when a Magnum RT blows by me. We were coming up on a section of road where you dont have to worry about cops so much so i figured i'd play with him. so i kinda chase him down just as the light turns red. i wasnt planning on racing him. the light turned green and we both slowly accelerated. get up to about 10mph and i hear his exhaust roar so i figured..."whatever". i floored it and easily walked away from him. let off at about 75ish and had a good 4 cars on him if not more. i was told that an RT is a HEMI but i figured they were faster. i dont think his 22" bling helped him much either.
Good win,Those rt's are fast.A lot of power. Did both of you nail it at the same time.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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That RT is for real.For you having put that many cars on him,makes a person wonder,was the guy racing.Your car is nice,but that RT is a beast.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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I had an inintended run-in w/ a total douchebag (actually it was a she) and an R/T. They were cruising in the left lane of the highway, going about 5 mph under the speed limit, and basically blocking all faster traffic from passing (there were a number of slow moving vehicles blocking the right lane). Anyways, we approach a light and the dumb b*tch brake checked me pretty hardcore.....though I ended up far outbraking her which I think pissed her off. Then all of a sudden when the light turns green she decides to actually use her overly badged Hemi (imagine that).....I decide, hell, I'll play along. So after a short delay, I punch it and she doesn't gain a foot until she decided to let off and I change lanes and pull next to her. To be honest, I had no desire to race her (I wasn't familiar w/ the R/T stats but figured that it would be a losing race in my C43)....I just wanted to be on my way at a reasonable speed, unimpeeded by some stubbon show-off type who clearly couldn't stand anyone being in front of her. We were by then cruising at around 70-ish and she was matching my speed.....being in the right lane with some traffic in my lane approaching, I decided to not be a dick and try to pull on her and then cut her off (though I mostly didn't want to endanger any of the innocent drivers in my lane).....so I backed off and got in behind her. And this is why I hate OR/WA/CA drivers....no regard for the "get the **** out of the passing lane if you aren't passing" rule.

Anyways, back on topic, I was pretty unimpressed w/ the R/T....I figured she would at least pull on me, but that wasn't the case.....and she was definitely trying. I guess all that weight kinda cancels out the 40 HP advantage or something.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FLYNAVY
...And this is why I hate OR/WA/CA drivers....no regard for the "get the **** out of the passing lane if you aren't passing" rule...
Too true. There is something to be admired in a fellow motorist who exhibits proper lane discipline and has at least some faculty towards spatial awareness.

We are all just trying to get down the road. Some days I feel like hauling ***, and on others I’ll just go with the flow. Nonetheless, I’m always aware of those around me. If the guy in the Yugo wants past, no problem. I’ll get out of his way.

From my perspective, it is not an ego contest, it’s just common courtesy. Or lack thereof, all too frequently.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Even the V6 version of the Magnum has more HP than the C320.

This is sounding like a crap story. I've had HEMI powered 300's for important business trips, when I can justify the extra rental expense, and I can tell you honestly that there is no way the C320 is going to put the smack down on a V8 Dodge. With 4 people in the car, we were still winning the stop light drags against anyone who wanted to play.
Honestly, why would I lie about a station wagon? I drive a stock C320, not really riding around looking for kills if you know what I mean. My post was meant to be more inquisitive than informative.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Good win,Those rt's are fast.A lot of power. Did both of you nail it at the same time.
I honestly dont remember. I just left the light a little quicker than normal and noticed him starting to creap up and I could hear his loud exhaust. I punched it and walked away. Who knows if he was trying to race or not. I just didnt feel like being behind him and the road 2-laned shortly.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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The V6s have two exhaust holes cut into their rear bumper, but only one tip.
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Its extremely possible!

Hey, guys. I hate to break this news to you, but its extremely possible that the Magnum R/T received a smack down from the C320. Why so?

1. The 0-60 times quoted by one of the forum member's are for the Chrysler 300C, not the Magnum R/T which is far slower than the 300C even though they both share the same 5.7 340hp Hemi powerplant.

2. In fact, these are the actual performance figures for the Magnum R/T via Car and Driver.

Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door wagon
Price as tested: $31,435 (base price: $29,995)
Engine type: pushrod 16-valve V-8, iron block and aluminum heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 345 cu in, 5654cc
Power (SAE net): 340 bhp @ 5000 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 390 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

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Transmission: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
Wheelbase: 120.0 in
Length/width/height: 197.7/74.1/58.3 in
Curb weight: 4289 lb

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Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.6 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 24.0 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.5 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.7 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 130 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.78 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 17 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 15 mpg


3. If you look closely at the times, you see that they are pretty equal to the C320. However, the C320 is actual quicker from 0-120mph if you use the times from Mercedes Enthusiast Magazine.

4. So my point is: Since the performance figures are simular, its very possible that the C320 could have put the smack down on the Magnum R/T especially if he launched better than the R/T!

5. Now, the Magnum SRT-8 is a totally different beast. Hence, the only thing C320 will see with that beast is a slight glimpse of its tail lights!

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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Figured you guys would like to see the mighty SRT8 300

get handled. Of course it goes w/o saying the car they race should win handily....but a good vid. Id kind of like to see the road race but I'll take the 1/4. smash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8maP4CB1Nk
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Was probably a fake RT. Rebadging is very popular with the el-cheapo 22" rim crowd on the magnum and 300 around here. I don't know why they put that junk on those cars, they ride so high afterwards that they look like short busses.
Yup
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Originally Posted by chp1884
Hey, guys. I hate to break this news to you, but its extremely possible that the Magnum R/T received a smack down from the C320. Why so?

1. The 0-60 times quoted by one of the forum member's are for the Chrysler 300C, not the Magnum R/T which is far slower than the 300C even though they both share the same 5.7 340hp Hemi powerplant.

2. In fact, these are the actual performance figures for the Magnum R/T via Car and Driver.

Vehicle type: front-engine, rear-wheel-drive, 5-passenger, 5-door wagon
Price as tested: $31,435 (base price: $29,995)
Engine type: pushrod 16-valve V-8, iron block and aluminum heads, port fuel injection
Displacement: 345 cu in, 5654cc
Power (SAE net): 340 bhp @ 5000 rpm
Torque (SAE net): 390 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm

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Transmission: 5-speed automatic with manumatic shifting
Wheelbase: 120.0 in
Length/width/height: 197.7/74.1/58.3 in
Curb weight: 4289 lb

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Zero to 60 mph: 6.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 15.6 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 24.0 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.5 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.7 sec @ 97 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 130 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 182 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.78 g
EPA fuel economy, city driving: 17 mpg
C/D-observed fuel economy: 15 mpg


3. If you look closely at the times, you see that they are pretty equal to the C320. However, the C320 is actual quicker from 0-120mph if you use the times from Mercedes Enthusiast Magazine.

4. So my point is: Since the performance figures are simular, its very possible that the C320 could have put the smack down on the Magnum R/T especially if he launched better than the R/T!

5. Now, the Magnum SRT-8 is a totally different beast. Hence, the only thing C320 will see with that beast is a slight glimpse of its tail lights!
Huh... well with those numbers you never know. Maybe he was racing. With numbers that similar and his huge rims he may have been trying to pull in front but couldn't...
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