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Old 04-03-2008, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marc
My hats off to him too... He seemed to drive the car pretty well from what I saw.

An amazing feat though? I don't know about that one. LOL. The C6 Z06 is a $75,000, 500HP supercar, so I'd certainly hope it could beat a 3500+ pound S4 with bolt ons, especially upstairs. From a standing start on the street I think it could be a different story though.

Just a FYI, this S4 is far from heavily modded. It has OEM turbos and intercoolers from the Audi RS4. Bone stock motor with 141K on the odo. I have about $8000 into the car including the cost of the car itself.
Uhh, so you're saying with no front bumper and carbon fiber everywhere, it weighs 3500 pounds+? I think a guy who just learned stick on a Z06 deserves some applause for beating someone who has been racing for as long as you have. Granted the Z06 has amazing power, but putting that power to the ground is incredibly difficult, especially for the driver where each shift edges the car to go sideways. Give credit where credit is due.

Oh and saying you have OEM turbos from another car doesen't mean anything. I could do an engine swap with a Corvette and say I have a OEM LS7. Use some logic.
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Uhh, so you're saying with no front bumper and carbon fiber everywhere, it weighs 3500 pounds+? I think a guy who just learned stick on a Z06 deserves some applause for beating someone who has been racing for as long as you have. Granted the Z06 has amazing power, but putting that power to the ground is incredibly difficult, especially for the driver where each shift edges the car to go sideways. Give credit where credit is due.

Oh and saying you have OEM turbos from another car doesen't mean anything. I could do an engine swap with a Corvette and say I have a OEM LS7. Use some logic.
Don't pay it no mind bro,marc downplays everything.Bobby did an excellent job considering he never drove a manual car before;a Z06 is a beast&it takes some skill not to put it sideways into the guardrail
Oh,btw...everything is "stock" on the car...even though it came from a DIFFERENT Audi it still means stock

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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
Don't pay it no mind bro,marc downplays everything.Bobby did an excellent job considering he never drove a manual car before;a Z06 is a beast&it takes some skill not to put it sideways into the guardrail
Oh,btw...everything is "stock" on the car...even though it came from a DIFFERENT Audi it still means stock
Haha yeah I know what he means when he says "stock" but just the way he acts like his car is actually stock because the parts he is using are all taken from other audis. If you show me an S4 that came stock from the factories with K04's from an RS6, then you can call it OEM. Like if he takes stock parts from other cars and make it weigh 5 pounds he can call it factory.

Like I said, if I do a motor swap with a Skyline, I can't claim it was an OEM part for my car and then tell everyone mine is stock cause the motor is stock when it comes in a Skyline lol.
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Haha yeah I know what he means when he says "stock" but just the way he acts like his car is actually stock because the parts he is using are all taken from other audis. If you show me an S4 that came stock from the factories with K04's from an RS6, then you can call it OEM. Like if he takes stock parts from other cars and make it weigh 5 pounds he can call it factory.

Like I said, if I do a motor swap with a Skyline, I can't claim it was an OEM part for my car and then tell everyone mine is stock cause the motor is stock when it comes in a Skyline lol.
If I stuff a S65tt in my E63 it's still a "stock" engine
Dude,he's been playin dat "it's stock" game for years,everybody knows whats up
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Originally Posted by AltySE-R
Oh and saying you have OEM turbos from another car doesen't mean anything. I could do an engine swap with a Corvette and say I have a OEM LS7. Use some logic.
No sorry, its just not like that, especially since the turbos are Audi oem, off a B5 chassis (same as S4) RS4, off a 2.7t (same as an S4 except watered down). They're a more reliable replacement for the stock turbos.
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Uhh, so you're saying with no front bumper and carbon fiber everywhere, it weighs 3500 pounds+?
Yep, it weighs over 3500lbs. The CF hood and trunklid only save 50lbs. I only have them because I got them for free.

Originally Posted by AltySE-R
I think a guy who just learned stick on a Z06 deserves some applause for beating someone who has been racing for as long as you have.
Already did that, but again, you're comparing a $75000+ supercar to a $8,000 140K mile junker.

Originally Posted by AltySE-R
Granted the Z06 has amazing power, but putting that power to the ground is incredibly difficult, especially for the driver where each shift edges the car to go sideways. Give credit where credit is due.
Putting the power down to the ground in a bone stock C6 Z06 from a 50 MPH roll is difficult? LOL, come on now. Now if you said a standing 1/4 mile race on the street I'd tend to agree with you, but racing from a roll doesn't take much. Anyone can make a car fast from a roll.

Originally Posted by AltySE-R
Oh and saying you have OEM turbos from another car doesen't mean anything. I could do an engine swap with a Corvette and say I have a OEM LS7. Use some logic.
Nah, the RS4 turbos and intercoolers are from the same body, same chassis, same platform, and same size motor as my S4.

It's pretty funny how you called my S4 "heavily modded" when in reality it has nothing more than 3-4 bolt ons. Bone stock motor, stock heads, stock cams, stock exhaust manifolds, stock displacement, stock compression ratio, stock engine management, etc.

If my S4 is "heavily modded" then what do you call an S4 with a 3.0L, GT28RS turbos, nitrous, etc?

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marc,does the car bobby raced you in the other nite have the very same turbos that Audi bolted on when they built it&it left the factory with??

And why is it that your justify your response by stating "well your car costs $75,000-$110,000 and I have only $8,000 into my junker so I would hope it beats it "? Who cares how much it cost,it's irrelevant.
I could buy a 92 Fox body Mustang for $2500,put $8,000 into the engine and have a 9-10sec car too so whats the point?

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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
marc,does the car bobby raced you in the other nite have the very same turbos that Audi bolted on when they built it&it left the factory with??

And why is it that your justify your response by stating "well your car costs $75,000-$110,000 and I have only $8,000 into my junker so I would hope it beats it "? Who cares how much it cost,it's irrelevant.
I could buy a 92 Fox body Mustang for $2500,put $8,000 into the engine and have a 9-10sec car too so whats the point?
The car he raced me in does not have the factory S4 turbos. The factory S4 turbos are K03's. The ones in the car in the vid are K04's.

I've always said that if I wanted to run the streets I'd buy a Mustang and rip everything apart and still have money to burn. Obviously I value style, comfort, drivability, prestige, and performance...not just speed.
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
marc,does the car bobby raced you in the other nite have the very same turbos that Audi bolted on when they built it&it left the factory with??

And why is it that your justify your response by stating "well your car costs $75,000-$110,000 and I have only $8,000 into my junker so I would hope it beats it "? Who cares how much it cost,it's irrelevant.
I could buy a 92 Fox body Mustang for $2500,put $8,000 into the engine and have a 9-10sec car too so whats the point?
This argument is like deja vu with every thread he's ever been in on every other car forum...it usually ends with him getting banned.

Just FYI.
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This argument is like deja vu with every thread he's ever been in on every other car forum...it usually ends with him getting banned.

Just FYI.
I don't see why he needs to be banned. We had a clean raced, he was a complete gentleman and even provided nice videos and hosted them on his site for us. Plus if there weren't arguments, these forums would be as boring as the rest of the car message boards.
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Originally Posted by oldgixxer
marc,does the car bobby raced you in the other nite have the very same turbos that Audi bolted on when they built it&it left the factory with??
The point that you and everyone else here is missing is that they are OEM turbos that came stock on the same platform/chassis/body/engine as my S4.

Originally Posted by oldgixxer
And why is it that your justify your response by stating "well your car costs $75,000-$110,000 and I have only $8,000 into my junker so I would hope it beats it "?
Because cost is a factor that needs to be considered when comparing two cars.

Who cares how much it cost,it's irrelevant.
I could buy a 92 Fox body Mustang for $2500,put $8,000 into the engine and have a 9-10sec car too so whats the point?
Anyone with money can buy a Veyron for a million bucks and kill everything from a roll too. So what's the point?
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We had some nice friendly runs tonight in Mexico. 45-130/140, 3 honk...clean runs.

Both Runs. High Quality. GOOD VIDEO! - filmed from Marc's car
http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/s..._vs_C6_Z06.wmv

Run 1: - filmed from Corvette
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...05857071680655

Run 2: - filmed from Corvette
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...74835884086407

My C6 Z06 is bone stock and his B5 S4 has some carbon fiber bits and a Stage III K04 setup.

Fun night. Nice runs Marc! Can't wait for the rematch with you on race fuel! Hopefully I'm still stock by then...
I just realized your link of the high quality video doesn't work. I think it's because you copy/pasted the text of the URL instead of the target. Anyway, here it is:

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/s..._vs_C6_Z06.wmv
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I just realized your link of the high quality video doesn't work. I think it's because you copy/pasted the text of the URL instead of the target. Anyway, here it is:

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/s..._vs_C6_Z06.wmv
Unfortunately I can't edit that first post...friggen MBworld

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I just realized your link of the high quality video doesn't work. I think it's because you copy/pasted the text of the URL instead of the target. Anyway, here it is:

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/s..._vs_C6_Z06.wmv
W-A-X-E-D!!!!


Damn and Bobby is just learning how to drive that car!
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W-A-X-E-D!!!!


Damn and Bobby is just learning how to drive that car!
Damn,marc has "FULL INTERIOR" listed under his mods like it's a frickin miracle a car would have such a thing as 2 seats,carpet,dashboard and a headliner
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By the way can I call my C43 stock? w/(5.5L M113 N/A motor)
That's a motor swap. Totally different. Plus, that swapped in motor isn't even stock. Don't you have aftermarket cams and some other ***** in there?

My S4 is running the same bone stock motor that it came with from the factory. Stock compression ratio, stock displacement, stock number of power adders, no nitrous, etc. It's a bone stock motor with 3-4 bolt ons and that's it. That's why this car continually impresses me.

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W-A-X-E-D!!!!


Damn and Bobby is just learning how to drive that car!
He didn't pass me until 135-140. That's incredible that I was able to hang for as long as I did considering the Z06 traps as high as 130 bone stock. I mean eventually the Z06 will pass me no matter what. Don't they go like 200 MPH? Gotta get something for your 80 grand.

Pretty sick that I can be right next to a 125-130 trap car, even to speeds equal to or just slightly faster than the trap speed. Never in my wildest dreams did I think my 3500+ pound 4 door all wheel drive S4 with 3-4 bolts would hang with a C6 Z06 like that all the way on up to 135-140. Can you imagine a real race... standing 1/4 mile?
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Damn,marc has "FULL INTERIOR" listed under his mods like it's a frickin miracle a car would have such a thing as 2 seats,carpet,dashboard and a headliner
Nah, I just want to make sure people are aware that this wasn't my blue car that was racing. Everyone who knows me instantly thinks of the blue one, so I wanted to make sure they didn't make that mistake.

I own 8 cars right now and the only one that's gutted is the blue car.
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He didn't pass me until 135-140. That's incredible that I was able to hang for as long as I did considering the Z06 traps as high as 130 bone stock. I mean eventually the Z06 will pass me no matter what. Don't they go like 200 MPH? Gotta get something for your 80 grand.

Pretty sick that I can be right next to a 125-130 trap car, even to speeds equal to or just slightly faster than the trap speed. Never in my wildest dreams did I think my 3500+ pound 4 door all wheel drive S4 with 3-4 bolts would hang with a C6 Z06 like that all the way on up to 135-140. Can you imagine a real race... standing 1/4 mile?
And it's even crazier is that my 4200lb car filled w 91 octane with stock tires,stock air in the the tires,a full interior with cup holders holding a 1/2full XL DunkinDonuts coffee,blasting a CD with my heated seats keepin my butt warm &a 30lb babyseat in the back is only a few mph slower then your awd turbo w bolt-ons that weighs 700lbs less.Damn,I did alot of car for my money

Im just breakin yer chops man,I could only imagine having 8 cars at my disposal&it's impressive that you know the Audi's inside&out and can swap around parts like that.I'd like to see that stable one day

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The point that you and everyone else here is missing is that they are OEM turbos that came stock on the same platform/chassis/body/engine as my S4.
no one missed that point marc. what everyone here is trying to tell you, and what you are failing to understand, is that even though they might be stock turbos on another audi, they are not the stock turbos that came on your car. unless your car specifically came off the factory line with those turbos installed, it is not stock. there is a reason people like youi change the factory k03 turbos to the k04 turbos, and i would be willing to bet large sums of oldgixxer's money that is isn't just because they are "more reliable"...

and if you wouldn't mind, answer me this. what is the point of having 8 cars? and don't say "because i can", since you make is blatantly clear that money is an issue with you.


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