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Old 04-30-2008, 02:14 PM
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Nice kill!!! Your SL55 must be running strong....have you dyno'ed it or taken it to the track?

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Motor Trend tested it a few years back: 12.26 @118.58mph (same test, same day a CL55 ran a 12.38@114.45mph).

http://www.motortrend.com/features/s.../photo_03.html

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ecs_price.html

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I think losing to a car worth half as much as yours that is still a luxury car would be the equivilant of finding out that Darth Vader is your father.
You mean like C63 vs other 63 series cars, including CLK63 Black?

(there was a thread about this recently in another MBW section)
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Originally Posted by Exodus
My limiter won't kick it until 165 or so
156.25 mph
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Changes car to car. On my E46 it kicks in just north of 160, on M5s it is apparantly 170mph. They should just derestrict them all.
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Originally Posted by E55JAY
156.25 mph
Maybe yours. Even my E55, that went till 162 or so before it got shut off.
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Originally Posted by transferred
Changes car to car. On my E46 it kicks in just north of 160, on M5s it is apparantly 170mph. They should just derestrict them all.
Yup my 600 kicks in right at 155
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Maybe yours. Even my E55, that went till 162 or so before it got shut off.
actually mine is delimited. All AMG's unless performance packages or imports are limited to 250KMH
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I remember hearing that Audi set the limiter for 155mph but it was set for tires with barely any tread...so a car with full tread would be slightly taller... and one revolution of the wheel would cover slightly more ground than the no tread tire... and resulted in 158mph top speeds on cars with full tread depth. I imagine that changing tire sizes could have an even more profound impact...and inaccurate speedo if not corrected. Did you guys with the higher instrumented mph change your wheels/tires sizes?

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Originally Posted by TMC M5
I remember hearing that Audi set the limiter for 155mph but it was set for tires with barely any tread...so a car with full tread would be slightly taller... and one revolution of the wheel would cover slightly more ground than the no tread tire... and resulted in 158mph top speeds on cars with full tread depth. I imagine that changing tire sizes could have an even more profound impact...and inaccurate speedo if not corrected. Did you guys with the higher instrumented mph change your wheels/tires sizes?

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100% stock 235 R19/265 R19 rear

55Jay-Euro cars are limited too.
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Resonator delete + K&Ns is all the 55 has done. It pulls really hard bro. REALLY hard.
I believe it happened. Equal drivers I would expect the 575M to trap up 4-5mph faster than the SL55. How much hp do your mods add?
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Nice run between two remarkable automobiles. I met a guy who had a 575M with nearly every aftermarket bolt-on minus forced induction you can buy. Pulled very hard and the catalyst delete with Tubi's simply sounded epic. And credit to Mercedes for building automobiles that feel as rock solid in triple digits as when merely cruising around. Assuming he was stock, although the Ferrari certainly feels faster, the kill is quite believable. On a side note, you must have some interesting morning.

"Hmmm, do I take the 600 or the 55 out today..." Jackass.
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The standard M3 rear tires are 255/40ZR18's. I believe the 19' optional wheels are 255/35ZR19's (including what I am reading for the Competition Package). These are exactly the same height (check it out on this gear ratio calculator): http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/

If you are running 265/35, your tire diameter is .27" higher and this might be giving you the extra MPH.

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100% stock 235 R19/265 R19 rear

55Jay-Euro cars are limited too.
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I think what Jay meant is that some non-performance packaged cars can actually be sent to the AMG facility in Affalterbach and the cars can be de-limited to 187mph (300 kph).

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Originally Posted by E55JAY
actually mine is delimited. All AMG's unless performance packages or imports are limited to 250KMH
Of course, I'm lying.
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Originally Posted by TMC M5
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The standard M3 rear tires are 255/40ZR18's. I believe the 19' optional wheels are 255/35ZR19's (including what I am reading for the Competition Package). These are exactly the same height (check it out on this gear ratio calculator): http://www.fatboyraceworks.com/gears/

If you are running 265/35, your tire diameter is .27" higher and this might be giving you the extra MPH.

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I'll go to the garage when I get back from the construction site tonight but Im 99.9% sure they are 235/265 tires on the comp pkg, which my 06 is.
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Originally Posted by HLG600
Nice run between two remarkable automobiles. I met a guy who had a 575M with nearly every aftermarket bolt-on minus forced induction you can buy. Pulled very hard and the catalyst delete with Tubi's simply sounded epic. And credit to Mercedes for building automobiles that feel as rock solid in triple digits as when merely cruising around. Assuming he was stock, although the Ferrari certainly feels faster, the kill is quite believable. On a side note, you must have some interesting morning.

"Hmmm, do I take the 600 or the 55 out today..." Jackass.
Hahaha, yea mornings are fun! The 55 is like my secret lover

But yeah, I love the 575, it is an amazing car and does sounds very nice, even his stock one.
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
I believe it happened. Equal drivers I would expect the 575M to trap up 4-5mph faster than the SL55. How much hp do your mods add?
I couldn't tell you, I would assume at the very least 5-10 RWHP. I know air filters on the 600 alone add 10RWHP so I imagine the 55 is around the same area.
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Originally Posted by transferred
I'll go to the garage when I get back from the construction site tonight but Im 99.9% sure they are 235/265 tires on the comp pkg, which my 06 is.
Make that 100 percent. Wifey took a break from painting her nails to check it out.

Optional twin-spoke 19s are 225/255 but CSL-style come with that vital extra centimeter all round.
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http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...6/pageId=63526

This is what I was going off of....maybe they made them bigger for 2006...

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BTW...the M3 CS is a very sweet car!!!

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Originally Posted by TMC M5
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...6/pageId=63526

This is what I was going off of....maybe they made them bigger for 2006...

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Simple misprint. Amazing how many of these stat bars contain, even in magazines like Autocar.

Thanks for the kind words my friend
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Originally Posted by Exodus
Of course, I'm lying.
well you have the sl600 that beats Z06's and an SL55 and an E55 that can go up to 165 on stock ECU tunes
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i figured by all of your BS posts about beating this car and that car that you were crying out for it, so I provided. Gosh it stings to get called out doesnt it.

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Originally Posted by E55JAY
i figured by all of your BS posts about beating this car and that car that you were crying out for it, so I provided. Gosh it stings to get called out doesnt it.

Not really.


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