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Old 09-01-2006, 11:22 AM
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At 39000 miles, I have already replaced 4 brake pads. But the pedal seems too low. Sitting at a stop light, there isn't that much more to push on the pedal to what feels like bottom.

I have had my 2000 since new so I know it is notorious for the spongy brake. But it just doesn't seem as good as it should be.

I got a Motive power bleeder and flushed the system and bleeded the lines. Did not see much difference.

Is there a special brake bleeding sequence or procedure for the ML?

I did the standard, farthest away from the master cylinder sequence.

BTW to Motive brake bleeder is awesome. No fuss, no muss.
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Originally Posted by cyeung65
At 39000 miles, I have already replaced 4 brake pads. But the pedal seems too low. Sitting at a stop light, there isn't that much more to push on the pedal to what feels like bottom.

I have had my 2000 since new so I know it is notorious for the spongy brake. But it just doesn't seem as good as it should be.

I got a Motive power bleeder and flushed the system and bleeded the lines. Did not see much difference.

Is there a special brake bleeding sequence or procedure for the ML?

I did the standard, farthest away from the master cylinder sequence.

BTW to Motive brake bleeder is awesome. No fuss, no muss.
It may not be a question of bleeding, I've found that if, whilst parked, I press hard on the brake pedal until it is depressed as far as it will go (usually near the floor) then the brakes seem to return to 'normal' for a few thousand miles.

Worn pads can also worsen the pedal feel.

I realise that this is not a direct answer to your question, I hope someone else answers it authoritatively.
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It may not be a question of bleeding, I've found that if, whilst parked, I press hard on the brake pedal until it is depressed as far as it will go (usually near the floor) then the brakes seem to return to 'normal' for a few thousand miles.

Worn pads can also worsen the pedal feel.

I realise that this is not a direct answer to your question, I hope someone else answers it authoritatively.
Appreciate any feedback on this issue. Thank you, that is quite interesting. I wonder what mechanical/hydraulic aspect causes that?
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Usually but not always, if you have air in the system, the pedal will go very low on the first pump but than rise if you continue to pump.

I had a problem years ago where the pedal behaved as if there was air in the system. To isolate the problem I pinched off the front brake lines (put a clamp on the rubber parts of the break lines just before each front caliper), and the pedal stopped going to floor and became very hard. To make a long story short, it turned out that my rotors were so warped that the break pads were actually bending to conform to the surface.
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