how to change brake pads
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here's a pretty good DIY guide http://www.petefagerlin.com/ML/brakes.htm
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What criteria do you use to decide whether or not to replace or turn the rotors? I have a slight lip (~ 1/8") on the front rotors, nothing on the rear. Was hoping to just put new pads on and hope they seat? If that's just going to cause problems will bite the bullet and replace the rotors as well.
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What criteria do you use to decide whether or not to replace or turn the rotors? I have a slight lip (~ 1/8") on the front rotors, nothing on the rear. Was hoping to just put new pads on and hope they seat? If that's just going to cause problems will bite the bullet and replace the rotors as well.
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I also got about 40K miles out of my brakes in my 98ML but my 05ML is another story. The 98ML's did Not have the stability program where as my 05 ML Has the stability program that tends to eat brakes.
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The 98 is also a much lighter vehicle that requires less braking to stop. I think that it may be more of that than the lack of the stability system
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I still share 'sosh's' opinion...
My 05ML eats rear brakes 2 times more more than the front brakes, which is just the opposite of the 98ML. That is due to driving style and mostly the stability program. The ML500 brakes are much bigger and also have fixed calipers which more than compensates for the increase in weight. Also the later ML utilize the rear brakes more in straight line braking than normal brake systems as part of the stability program operation.
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I think, the primary contributing factor for longer brake life on your 98 ML was its lighter weight. It could also be that the newer MLs use even softer brake pad material for improved braking and handling...
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Mike I have 2 cars (including the ML) both of which have ESP & 4 channel independent EBFD (Electronic Brake Force Distribution). At least with EBFD, you would think, that the brake pad wear between the fronts & the rears would even out, but still, on both, my front pads wear quicker than the rears..
I think, the primary contributing factor for longer brake life on your 98 ML was its lighter weight. It could also be that the newer MLs use even softer brake pad material for improved braking and handling...
I think, the primary contributing factor for longer brake life on your 98 ML was its lighter weight. It could also be that the newer MLs use even softer brake pad material for improved braking and handling...
The late W163's were substancially heavier than the 98's. Weight and driving habits are the biggest factor in brake life. Remember the ESP in the later W163's is only activated with wheel slip or vehicle sliding like on ice.
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I would hope that the Mercedes ESP systems work long before wheel slip. ESP is usually activated by inputs such as steering angle sensor and yaw rate sensors and is supposed to correct for understeer or oversteer.
The 4ETS traction control in the 98ML and 05ML is what limits wheel slip.
And yes, I do understand that ESP and 4ETS are incorporated into the same electronic system but provide very different functions.
Mike
The 4ETS traction control in the 98ML and 05ML is what limits wheel slip.
And yes, I do understand that ESP and 4ETS are incorporated into the same electronic system but provide very different functions.
Mike
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I would hope that the Mercedes ESP systems work long before wheel slip. ESP is usually activated by inputs such as steering angle sensor and yaw rate sensors and is supposed to correct for understeer or oversteer.
The 4ETS traction control in the 98ML and 05ML is what limits wheel slip.
And yes, I do understand that ESP and 4ETS are incorporated into the same electronic system but provide very different functions.
Mike
The 4ETS traction control in the 98ML and 05ML is what limits wheel slip.
And yes, I do understand that ESP and 4ETS are incorporated into the same electronic system but provide very different functions.
Mike
