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Old 03-21-2013, 02:06 AM
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budget from the dealer...scared!!!

Hi guys, Let me introduce myself first. I have a W163 ML 2002, i bought the car in Dubai, 148K really good price. Anyways, the thing is i took it to the workshop for general maintenance and because I want to replace some spare parts and when they gave me the budget my face was: lol

I'm not using the car everyday so I wanna do the thing right and after checking for a few days in the forum all the problems related with my car, now it's time to ask you guys if you can help me out.

I'm gonna post the problems they found in my car. I have to say i'm not an expert at all so unfortunately i can't follow the amazing DIY you guys posted in the forum.

I also attached the part that i think it has to be replaced with the prices from Mercedes Benz Dealer and other brands, so I'll ask you if you please tell me if it's worth it to put the original parts and what should i fix in the official workshop or in another mechanic.

thank you so much!

PS: I almost forgot...the list is huge and i want to fix everything but can you guys tell me in order of importance what would you fix first??? thanks again

PROBLEMS:


2. Valve cover gasket (L/R): LEAKING

Left: part# 113 016 02 21

BRUSS (OEM) $ 19,99
ELRING KLINGER: $ 10,99
VICTOR REINZ: $ 14,99
MB: $ 19,60

Right: part# 113 016 03 21

BRUSS (OEM) $ 19,99
ELRING KLINGER: $ 10,99
VICTOR REINZ: $ 14,99
MB: $ 19,60

3. Cylinder head gasket: LEAKING

Left: part# 113 016 02 20
part# 113 016 04 20

ELRING KLINGER: $ 51,99
MB: $ 58,40

Right: part# 113 016 03 20
part# 113 016 05 20

ELRING KLINGER: $ 51,99
MB: $ 58,40

5. All brake disc & brake pads rusty

FRONT BRAKE DISCS: (L/R) part# 163 421 05 12
MB: $ 86,99
ZIMMERMANN COAT Z: $71,89

FRONT BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part# 163 420 10 20
AKEBONO EURO: $ 114,99
BOSCH QUIETCAST: $ 66,99
MB: $ 122,99

REAR BRAKE DISCS: (L/R) part# 163 423 02 12

FRONT BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part#163 423 02 12
MB: $80,99
ZIMMERMANN COAT Z: $51,89

REAR BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part# 163 420 10 20
AKEBONO EURO: $ 102,99
BOSCH QUIETCAST: $ 50,99
MB: $ 139,99

7. Rear Right Door Seal REPLACE

Right Rear Door Weatherstrip Seal part#163 730 16 78
MB: $49,60

8. All wiper blade: REPLACE

Front wiper blades part# 170 820 08 45
BOSCH (OEM): $29,02

Rear tailgate wiper blade: part# 211 820 24 45
BOSCH (OEM): $8,99

14. Water reservoir LEAKING further check for function of windshield water boton

163 860 16 60 or 163 860 11 60?

DASHPOT: part# 163 860 16 60
MB: $131,20

RESERVOIR ASSY: part# 163 860 11 60
MB: $112,00

23. Rear crankshaft seal LEAKING

Rear Main Seal: part# 112 997 02 46
CORTECO-CFW: $22,99

24. Rack & Pinion LEAKING

Sterring Rack Boot Kit: part# 163 460 01 96
ZF (OEM): $34,99

25. Oil level sensor gasket LEAKING

Oil Level Sensor O-Ring: part# 023 997 43 48
MB: $3,94

Engine Oil level sensor: part# 006 153 27 28
MB: $96,00

26. Side shaft seal for selector lever LEAKING + transmission oil & filter

SUGGESTIONS???

Radial Shaft: part# 015 997 12 46
MB: $3,76

27. Power reservoir LEAKING

Reservoir: part# 000 460 01 83
MB: $26,00

Power Steering Reservoir to Pump Seal (Gasket): part# 000 466 18 80
MB: $2,72

Power Steering Fluid: Part# Q 1 46 0001
MB: $8,99


28. Differential side shaft seal LEAKING

SUGGESTIONS?????

29. Center bearing for propeller shaft

Carrier bearing kit: part# 163 410 00 10
MB: $188,80
SPICER (OEM) : ????

30. Rear shock absorber (Right) LEAKING

Rear Shock Absorber: part# 163 320 23 13
BILSTEIN: $307,99
MB: $336,00

32. A/C not cooling

34. Need to check Brake System: brake light not working
Old 03-21-2013, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by christiant
Hi guys, Let me introduce myself first. I have a W163 ML 2002, i bought the car in Dubai, 148K really good price. Anyways, the thing is i took it to the workshop for general maintenance and because I want to replace some spare parts and when they gave me the budget my face was: lol

I'm not using the car everyday so I wanna do the thing right and after checking for a few days in the forum all the problems related with my car, now it's time to ask you guys if you can help me out.

I'm gonna post the problems they found in my car. I have to say i'm not an expert at all so unfortunately i can't follow the amazing DIY you guys posted in the forum.

I also attached the part that i think it has to be replaced with the prices from Mercedes Benz Dealer and other brands, so I'll ask you if you please tell me if it's worth it to put the original parts and what should i fix in the official workshop or in another mechanic.

thank you so much!

PS: I almost forgot...the list is huge and i want to fix everything but can you guys tell me in order of importance what would you fix first??? thanks again

PROBLEMS:


2. Valve cover gasket (L/R): LEAKING

Left: part# 113 016 02 21

BRUSS (OEM) $ 19,99
ELRING KLINGER: $ 10,99
VICTOR REINZ: $ 14,99
MB: $ 19,60

Right: part# 113 016 03 21

BRUSS (OEM) $ 19,99
ELRING KLINGER: $ 10,99
VICTOR REINZ: $ 14,99
MB: $ 19,60

Get this done.



3. Cylinder head gasket: LEAKING

Left: part# 113 016 02 20
part# 113 016 04 20

ELRING KLINGER: $ 51,99
MB: $ 58,40

Right: part# 113 016 03 20
part# 113 016 05 20

ELRING KLINGER: $ 51,99
MB: $ 58,40

This is the most important problem you have to worry about. How do they know the cylinder head gasket is leaking? If it is you would be having overheating problems. The top half of the engine must be dismantled to fix this. Big dollars. Don't make any other repairs until you find out the cost of labor for this and then you can decide whether or not to keep the truck.

5. All brake disc & brake pads rusty

FRONT BRAKE DISCS: (L/R) part# 163 421 05 12
MB: $ 86,99
ZIMMERMANN COAT Z: $71,89

FRONT BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part# 163 420 10 20
AKEBONO EURO: $ 114,99
BOSCH QUIETCAST: $ 66,99
MB: $ 122,99

REAR BRAKE DISCS: (L/R) part# 163 423 02 12

FRONT BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part#163 423 02 12
MB: $80,99
ZIMMERMANN COAT Z: $51,89

REAR BRAKE PADS: (L/R) part# 163 420 10 20
AKEBONO EURO: $ 102,99
BOSCH QUIETCAST: $ 50,99
MB: $ 139,99

If the truck was sitting for a while before you bought it, then the rust is normal. It will wear away as you apply the brakes. But you then might need brakes anyway.

7. Rear Right Door Seal REPLACE

Right Rear Door Weatherstrip Seal part#163 730 16 78
MB: $49,60

This can wait unless you have a wind noise.

8. All wiper blade: REPLACE

Front wiper blades part# 170 820 08 45
BOSCH (OEM): $29,02

Rear tailgate wiper blade: part# 211 820 24 45
BOSCH (OEM): $8,99

Why not.

14. Water reservoir LEAKING further check for function of windshield water boton

163 860 16 60 or 163 860 11 60?

DASHPOT: part# 163 860 16 60
MB: $131,20

RESERVOIR ASSY: part# 163 860 11 60
MB: $112,00

This must be replaced because the washer fluid will leak onto the ABS wiring connector.

23. Rear crankshaft seal LEAKING

Rear Main Seal: part# 112 997 02 46
CORTECO-CFW: $22,99

You will have to see how bad it is leaking. The transmission will have to be removed to fix this problem.

24. Rack & Pinion LEAKING

Sterring Rack Boot Kit: part# 163 460 01 96
ZF (OEM): $34,99

Yes, have this done.

25. Oil level sensor gasket LEAKING

Oil Level Sensor O-Ring: part# 023 997 43 48
MB: $3,94

Engine Oil level sensor: part# 006 153 27 28
MB: $96,00

Wait on this one. Maybe it is just sweating because the truck has been sitting.

26. Side shaft seal for selector lever LEAKING + transmission oil & filter

SUGGESTIONS???

Radial Shaft: part# 015 997 12 46
MB: $3,76

They gave you the wrong part number for this part. Wait on the trans. fluid and filter until you decide about the head gasket.

27. Power reservoir LEAKING

Reservoir: part# 000 460 01 83
MB: $26,00

Power Steering Reservoir to Pump Seal (Gasket): part# 000 466 18 80
MB: $2,72

Power Steering Fluid: Part# Q 1 46 0001
MB: $8,99

This should be repaired. Only have the reservoir and O-ring replaced.

28. Differential side shaft seal LEAKING

SUGGESTIONS?????

Don't know what this is all about.

29. Center bearing for propeller shaft

Carrier bearing kit: part# 163 410 00 10
MB: $188,80
SPICER (OEM) : ????

Yes, but is it bad.

30. Rear shock absorber (Right) LEAKING

Rear Shock Absorber: part# 163 320 23 13
BILSTEIN: $307,99
MB: $336,00

Yes get the M/B ones, but they are only sold in pairs.

32. A/C not cooling

You will have to find out what is wrong. This could get into big money.

34. Need to check Brake System: brake light not working
It's is probably the brake light switch which should cost that much.

Again, you have to find out about the head gasket problem first before pouring all this money into this truck.
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Thank you so much, Maj. Dundee! I really appreciate your quick response. So then, the first thing I should do is ask about points no.2 and 3?

2. Valve cover gasket (L/R): LEAKING
3. Cylinder head gasket: LEAKING


Again thank you so much!

Any other contribution will be appreciated!

PS: When you say "Big dollars" how much do you think it could be? Just to have an idea... thanks again!
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If in fact it is a head gasket, in the US it would be anywhere from $1,500 and up.
Old 03-24-2013, 04:06 AM
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Ok guys, i just came from the dealer with the official budget. I also have to say that they are giving me 40% off in Labour and 20% in Spare parts, so in the PDF you can see both prices (with and without discount in local currency here in Dubai (Dirhams) and in Dollars), the numbers on the left i think is the error code, right? so any help in all this thing will give more than appreciate.

I will also want tou ask you guys if you'd fix your car in the dealer or in a local mechanic (it depends, of course)

thank you very much!!!
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