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Old 06-05-2014, 04:50 AM
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ML320 died, won't start, transmission failed.

Hey guys,

Just bought my first MB, an ml320 W163 - what a regretful decision.

Driving on the freeway tonight and suddenly my car starts losing power - definitely still on though. Put my foot down and car somewhat revs but no power to the wheels. Pull over on the shoulder and the car is shuddering badly - when I use any electricity, especially power windows, the car almost stalls.

Can't seem to turn it on for a few minutes either, but then it starts fine later.

What the hell is wrong with it?

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Just got it home, it started fine and idles smooth (or what it previously idled like anyway, a bit apprehensive to even call that smooth) but it's definitely more sluggish than usual, it feels like I have no pedal power, but the revs are definitely responding to how hard I press the accelerater.

I cannot figure out what it could be?
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Firstly scanning the car for codes would be nice.
I would think of changing the 13 pin connector harness & do a tranny flush & tranny filter change.
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I'll get the codes read

A failing transmission connector doesn't really explain why the power windows are making my engine stall and why the idle is extremely rough until I turn off the car and wait 5 minutes
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Look at either the battery ,grounds, or alternator being marginal
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Originally Posted by ML320VIC
I'll get the codes read

A failing transmission connector doesn't really explain why the power windows are making my engine stall and why the idle is extremely rough until I turn off the car and wait 5 minutes
You will be surprised at what a failing 13 pin socket can do to your car......( failing 13 pin connector means the seals are gone & oil has access to the electric cables & shorting them). The car starts developing symptoms all over the place that don't make any sense....That is exactly when I would change the socket. Its inexpensive & 20 min DIY.
But again, have the codes read.....

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Read the codes, 9 in total, 2 premature. Secondary air injector and misfires all over?

Any ideas?

P0410
P0301
P0302
P0304
P0306
P0305
P0300
P0173 premature
P0300 premature
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Code P0173 signifies a rich or lean mixture in Bank #2, left side-driver's.

Misfires on cyl 4,5 & 6 are also on the left bank.

This clearly shows that there is a catalytic converter clogging on the left side.

Purchase an Exhaust Back pressure gauge, remove the upstream O2 sensor (G3/3) and insert the gauge in the O2 sensor hole.

Fully warm the engine and then observe the gauge at idle and see that it does not go above 1 psi. The raise the idle to 1,500 RPM's and it should not go above 1 psi. Then do the same at 2,500 RPM's.

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If it goes above 1 psi I assume then it's clogged?

Does this explain why when I rev to over 3000 rpm, the engine suddenly starts shaking and going extremely sluggish until I turn off the car and restart (at which point it's fine again)?

I noticed a few people complaining of the exact same symptoms who seemed to have a clogged cat.
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If it goes above 1 psi I assume then it's clogged? Correct.

Does this explain why when I rev to over 3000 rpm, the engine suddenly starts shaking and going extremely sluggish until I turn off the car and restart (at which point it's fine again)? Correct.

I noticed a few people complaining of the exact same symptoms who seemed to have a clogged cat. You are not alone.

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