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Old 08-29-2017, 11:33 PM
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2002 ML 320 not cranking

hello guys.I'm new here and I need some help with my wife ML.I turn the car off and when I went to start it won't crank,I have the "start error" showing on the dash.i did change the ignition switch and now the alarm is off and I can't get it to come on the red led for the alarm is not even on and also the electric locks are not working ether from the remote key or from inside the car. Don't what to do anymore I have try everything possible.another question is I can get all the parts that I need from another donor 2002 ML 320 what we I need to get,I know that it is 2 electric box where the fuses are, I will need the ignition key and what else and if all of this it is going to solve my problem or I still will have to have Mercedes dealer reprogram the car for me any help it will be appreciated.

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Old 08-30-2017, 05:14 AM
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With a DVOM, check the battery posts (RED) for 12v. Then check the battery cables (GREEN) for 12. They should be exactly the same, 12.5-7 volts.
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Brand new battery,Now I have the alarm back on , also the central lock in the car and remote are working the only thing is not doing is cranking and starting with the key . Now if I put the key in position # 2 and bypass the started relay, start right up and states on, runs find ether forward or reverse just not cranking or starting from the key.

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Don't you think it was important to let everyone know that you installed a new battery and had already bypassed the starter? Omitting these two things is wasting everyone's time.

Everything depends on the proper voltage, but not being able to lock/unlock the doors would have nothing to do with a no crank issue UNLESS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH VOLTAGE.

Why can't you conduct the test which will cost you nothing?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
Don't you think it was important to let everyone know that you installed a new battery and had already bypassed the starter? Omitting these two things is wasting everyone's time.

Everything depends on the proper voltage, but not being able to lock/unlock the doors would have nothing to do with a no crank issue UNLESS THERE IS NOT ENOUGH VOLTAGE.

Why can't you conduct the test which will cost you nothing?
I will and I will post back in a few. Thanks


ps: the ignition switch is brand new

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Another test you should do is insert the key in the ign and turn the key to pos. #2, all the time watching the LED light. Does it blink once?
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Ok I did the test and on all the cables I'm getting 12.65 volts
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
Another test you should do is insert the key in the ign and turn the key to pos. #2, all the time watching the LED light. Does it blink once?
I did that test soon as you open the ignition position #1 the light star blink no stop.Position #2 the light don't flash at all
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I said nothing about pos. #1. Do the test again going directly to pos. #2.
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pos. #2 flash 1 time
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That means that the key is recognized which is good.

It's hard to understand what you posted in your first post. Please explain why you changed the ign. switch and were there any new problems after that?

Does the eng. crank and not start or is there no crank at all?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
That means that the key is recognized which is good.

It's hard to understand what you posted in your first post. Please explain why you changed the ign. switch and were there any new problems after that?

Does the eng. crank and not start or is there no crank at all?
the reason i change the switch it was cause of this no crank so i change the ignition switch but that didn't fix the problem.then I find out that the key cylinder wasn't going in to pos. #3 at all so I start playing with the key back and forth and started going into pos. #3
no new problem after that.
the engine don't crank with the key on ignition
If you put the key in position #2 and bypass the stater relay (what i mean is remove the starter relay and used a small jumper cable between post 30 and 50) the car will crank and start and it will state on until i turn the key to off pos.

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It is not supposed to start the eng. with the relay removed and bypassed. It is only supposed to crank the eng.

Have you changed the starter relay?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
It is not supposed to start the eng. with the relay removed and bypassed. It is only supposed to crank the eng.

Have you changed the starter relay?
yes i did .All of the relays are good

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Did you just buy this truck?

After you start the eng., did you ever try inserting the starter relay and see what happens?
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Originally Posted by Maj. Dundee
Did you just buy this truck?

After you start the eng., did you ever try inserting the starter relay and see what happens?
I have this truck for over 10 years.I will try that test and let you know what happen
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When you try to start the truck with the relay in place, does the key turn to pos. #3 and does it spring back when you release the key?

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I was having some issues with my wife's 2000 ml 320. When the key was turned to try to start it wouldn't crank at all but it only happened when it was below 40 F and after replacing many parts I found out that I had a defective fuse box. It was the main fuse box where all the relays and fuses are in the engine compartment driver's side. Ordered it for $470 and all.my starting problems went away. I had replaced battery starter, starter relay, ignition switch, brake switch. Those fuse boxes are known to be defective I would recommend changing it to see if the problem goes away.

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