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Old 07-15-2004, 05:52 PM
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Call me crazy but I am thinking of swapping my ML500...only 9000 miles

Fooooorrrrrrr..............guess what...a Dodge Magnum RT Hemi

...going for a test drive on Saturday
I really like my ML and have had great luck with it...but I am never off road and am a little tired of driving a truck...but I still need to haul stuff around.
I miss my CLK55...and still have to wait for my SL...besides having a hotrod family car appeals to me...340HP 390ftlbs....Mercedes...5sp Tranny...E class suspension...so I feel I am not being too much of a traitor

am I nuts or what???
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Ur crazy... I love my ML!
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Originally Posted by jco-amg
Call me crazy but I am thinking of swapping my ML500...only 9000 miles

Fooooorrrrrrr..............guess what...a Dodge Magnum RT Hemi

...going for a test drive on Saturday
I really like my ML and have had great luck with it...but I am never off road and am a little tired of driving a truck...but I still need to haul stuff around.
I miss my CLK55...and still have to wait for my SL...besides having a hotrod family car appeals to me...340HP 390ftlbs....Mercedes...5sp Tranny...E class suspension...so I feel I am not being too much of a traitor

am I nuts or what???
More reasons here:

https://mbworld.org/forums/showpost....30&postcount=2

I drove it a couple weeks ago. Keep in mind that you can't hold very much in back. I am considering the AWD version when it comes out in the fall, since I need a snowboarding vehicle. For that I will have to carry the boards on top instead of inside like I did with the ML. And no more picking up new kitchen appliances, but since I already did that (the ML swallowed the refrigerator whole), I don't foresee needing that for a few more years.

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Well, you have your SL coming along, so that'll provide you some variety even with your ML.
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Originally Posted by jco-amg
Call me crazy but I am thinking of swapping my ML500...only 9000 miles

Fooooorrrrrrr..............guess what...a Dodge Magnum RT Hemi

...going for a test drive on Saturday
I really like my ML and have had great luck with it...but I am never off road and am a little tired of driving a truck...but I still need to haul stuff around.
I miss my CLK55...and still have to wait for my SL...besides having a hotrod family car appeals to me...340HP 390ftlbs....Mercedes...5sp Tranny...E class suspension...so I feel I am not being too much of a traitor

am I nuts or what???
Well I drove the chrysler 300C hemi, Very nice vehicle indeed. I personally would hold on to the ML500 because it is a classier vehicle and has a nicer interior. Plus Dodge dealers suck with service depts and are prolly super ****y now that their cars have mercedes parts in them.
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Originally Posted by scorchie
Who makes the Magnum RDS capable radio, scorchie? Delphi?

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Well I did it!!!..Put in an order for the Magnum Hemi!....really liked the car
especially the handling...very well balanced car...very firm but not uncomfortable actually reminded me a bit of my CLK55 but with better steering...did not feel like a big car...sure the interior is not as nice but with kids I don't care that much about leather on the doors...seats were very good
Car was very quiet...too quiet...I will have to change out the exhaust to really hear that 5.7 Hemi...you know brabus has formed a new division called Startech for tuning Dodges and Chryslers...can't wait to see hat they come up with for the Magnum

think of it as a like an Eclass estate AMG with the w210 Amg 55 motor without the frills

p.s. Will be selling my 2002 ML500 Sport only 10,000 miles...PM me if interested...car is in NY
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Who makes the Magnum RDS capable radio, scorchie? Delphi?
I have one on order (to play with) and will let you know when it comes in... it works on CANBUS so I want to see how compatible the CANBUS protocols are with Mercedes...

The software is similar to the Alpine units used in the M-class, but significantly updated. New VDO/Dayton units also use a similar software, so they may be related. VDO/Dayton makes the nav units for older Chrysler/Jeep cars, but this unit is so much better than those other ones, it's hard to believe that it would be from the same manufacturer.

I think there's some software licensing going on somewhere... for instance the VDO Dayton units used in US Audis (similar to the A3 navigation) has software similar to the Becker TrafficPro. Seems like maybe VDO/Dayton doesn't develop their own software....

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Look what I just found here. It's the M-Class supplier!!! :-) What gave it away was the languages offered in Europe. German, English, French and Spanish. Also remembered Alpine introduced a European DVD NAV with RDS TMC about a year ago or so. Can we suspect this for the W164 and W251?

"Chrysler Group selected Alpine Electronics, a supplier of high-performance mobile electronics systems, to provide the navigation unit, GPS antenna and map database information. The map database information is housed on a single DVD-ROM based on NAVTECH data."
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Look what I just found here. It's the M-Class supplier!!! :-) What gave it away was the languages offered in Europe. German, English, French and Spanish. Also remembered Alpine introduced a European DVD NAV with RDS TMC about a year ago or so. Can we suspect this for the W164 and W251?

"Chrysler Group selected Alpine Electronics, a supplier of high-performance mobile electronics systems, to provide the navigation unit, GPS antenna and map database information. The map database information is housed on a single DVD-ROM based on NAVTECH data."
Good find. The funky joystick on it made me think Alpine, but that was the only detraction from an otherwise nice piece of equipment (I felt the same with the MCS). DVD nav and MP3 changer built in... very cool. Too bad no phone controls!

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Originally Posted by scorchie
Good find. The funky joystick on it made me think Alpine, but that was the only detraction from an otherwise nice piece of equipment (I felt the same with the MCS). DVD nav and MP3 changer built in... very cool. Too bad no phone controls!

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I happen to like the joystick. Often I just enter where I want to go with it since I find it's faster than entering a long new address, and also a bit more precise. Just zoom and click...

No phone controls is just as well, since I happen to prefer the buttons on the phones itself which I'm usually more familiar with. $275 for UConnect with Bluetooth is not bad. Wonder how reliably it works with different phones?
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Originally Posted by ml320
I happen to like the joystick. Often I just enter where I want to go with it since I find it's faster than entering a long new address, and also a bit more precise. Just zoom and click...

No phone controls is just as well, since I happen to prefer the buttons on the phones itself which I'm usually more familiar with. $275 for UConnect with Bluetooth is not bad. Wonder how reliably it works with different phones?
I am just used to the COMAND rotary control... spin and click. When clicking, I tend to move the cursor on the joystick, but not on the COMAND. Since COMAND has gone to separate direction buttons + OK (click), have learned to like this the best... but I tried the new joystick and it seemed to work well.

Also, the All Wheel Drive version of the RT is $31,995 list!

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