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Old Jul 6, 2020 | 02:22 AM
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ML270CDI(W163); C200K (W203
W163 Radiator Controller

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My SUV is ML270 CDI – RH Drive.
Recently had a cooling failure which eventually was traced to the main Radiator and electronic controller assy.
I managed to pick up a used Fan and controller assembly which has got me going again.
My research to date tells me I cannot buy the controller separate to the complete radiator – does not make sense to me –
where I have a perfectly good radiator with a failed controller – so thought I would see if I can source a replacement controller for the failed one.


I believe the part is 885001021-8850 01026

Does anyone know if this controller is available as a part – location price etc please.
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Old Jul 6, 2020 | 10:46 AM
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M/B only sells the controller with the fan.
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 01:16 PM
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Problème fonctionnement moto-ventilateur refroidissement.

Bonjour,
J'espère que ton navigateur, traduira mon courrier.
J'ai le même problème que toi. Ce que je recherche, ceux sont les tensions d'excitation du module de commande ventilateur.
Sinon, il n'est pas possible de trouver le module sans le support et sans le ventilateur. Il y a quelques occasions sur Ebay.
Le module est commandé par le calculateur moteur.
Cordialement.
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Originally Posted by roadhugger
Hi all
My SUV is ML270 CDI – RH Drive.
Recently had a cooling failure which eventually was traced to the main Radiator and electronic controller assy.
I managed to pick up a used Fan and controller assembly which has got me going again.
My research to date tells me I cannot buy the controller separate to the complete radiator – does not make sense to me –
where I have a perfectly good radiator with a failed controller – so thought I would see if I can source a replacement controller for the failed one.


I believe the part is 885001021-8850 01026

Does anyone know if this controller is available as a part – location price etc please.
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Old Jul 18, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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Bonjour Dundee,
Ou puis-je trouver les schémas électriques, liaison calculateur moteur/ groupe moto-ventilateur, propre aux modèle ML 270 et 400 CDI. C'est pour contrôler soit l'information qui sort de ECU CDI, soit contrôler le fonctionnement du moto-ventilateur.
D'avance merci.
Laurent.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 05:14 AM
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What year is your ML400 CDI?



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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 05:45 AM
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Veuillez mettre à jour votre profil pour inclure l'année ou les années des deux ML.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 06:10 AM
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Bonjour Dundee,
Mon ML est du 04/23/2002, code WIN WDC1631281X769327.
Merci pour tes réponses.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Laurent27w
Bonjour Dundee,
Mon ML est du 04/23/2002, code WIN WDC1631281X769327.
Merci pour tes réponses.
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Votre vin # apparaît comme un ML320 2002. Est-ce exact?
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 09:34 AM
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J'attends une réponse. Vous avez six heures d'avance sur l'heure des États-Unis et il serait utile que vous restiez près de votre ordinateur pour répondre aux questions l'une après l'autre.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Désolé, pour le décalage.
Mon véhicule est un W163 400 cdi Brabus et le WIN est correct.
Le type du véhicule est: MMB89E4R4916.
Je prends mon GSM avec moi.
Laurent.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 11:42 AM
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Comment avez-vous décidé que votre fan était défectueux?
Il y a quelques possibilités.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:00 PM
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Mon moteur surchauffe et le moto-ventilateur ne fonctionne pas avec la climatisation. Plus de climatisation.
Tout les fusibles et relais on été vérifiés. Aucun voyant d'allumé sauf lorsque le moteur chauffe.
Le calorstat à été déposé et la pompe a eau a été vérifié.
C'est pour cela que je cherche les tensions d'excitation du moto-ventilateur et le schémas électrique moto-ventilateur, UCE DCI, thermocontact et compresseur de climatisation. C'est pour vérifier le bon fonctionnement du moto-ventilateur en direct, sans passer par l'UCE CDI.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Avez-vous un ohmmètre numérique volt?
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:13 PM
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Avec la clé hors du contact, testez le fil ROUGE pour 12 volts et le fil MARRON pour la masse.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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Sur les 2 fils qui pilotent le module du moto ventilateur, normalement l'un c'est pour l'excitation et l'autre c'est pour la la vitesse, vitesse véhicule ou vitesse ventilateur ?????.
Sur l'un des 2 fils, il y a la tension batterie, + 13,5v.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:15 PM
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Oui, j'ai déjà vérifié tout cela.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:19 PM
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Tournez la clé en position # 3 (ne démarrez pas le moteur) et testez le fil BLEU pour 12v.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:23 PM
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Je n'ai pas de fil bleu, c'est blanc et vert. et sur le vert, il y a la tension batterie.
Les 2 fils supplémentaire que j'ai soudé, c'est pour connaitre la continuité avec le calculateur moteur UCE DCI.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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C'est pour cela que je cherche les tensions d'excitation du moto-ventilateur et le schémas électrique moto-ventilateur, UCE DCI, thermocontact et compresseur de climatisation. C'est pour vérifier le bon fonctionnement du moto-ventilateur en direct, sans passer par l'UCE CDI.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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Je ne sais pas ce que vous avez fait avec ces deux fils supplémentaires mais cela pourrait être dangereux.

Vous devez acheter un nouveau ventilateur. Si vous achetez ces contrôleurs sur Internet, préparez-vous à un câblage différent et ils ne fonctionneront pas longtemps.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:37 PM
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Qui peut me procurer les schémas électrique du moto-ventilateur.
J'ai installé un ventilateur supplémentaire mais la voiture chauffe encore.


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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 12:41 PM
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Le moto-ventilateur coûte 770 Euros, environ 900 Dollars, et si c’était pas lui qui est en cause, j'ai pas envie de m’asseoir dessus (expression Française).
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 01:00 PM
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Voici le schéma de câblage et tous les composants.

Ne sautez aucun fil sur N3 / 10 car vous grilleriez l'ECM.
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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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J'ai bien identifié le moto-ventilateur (schémas PDF) mais je ne pense pas que cela soit un schémas de W163 400 CDI car le ventilateur possède 3 fils et sur 400 CDI il y en a 4 (=4 vitesses de rotation).
Je pense que c'est un schémas pour véhicule essence.
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