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Old 09-01-2004, 08:23 PM
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What do you like least about your ML?

Same guidelines as before; what do you like the LEAST about YOUR ML?
Mine: No steering wheel buttons!
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
horrible resale value.
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
... and the worthless cupholders.
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2014 C250 sport
creaks and squeaks, rough and boomy ride quality, chassis shudders, wind noise at 75 MPH +
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W209 - W163
-320 Engine
-Its slow
-Loud
-Rattles
-Plastic everywhere outside
-Cheap interior materials
-Looks like a minivan sometimes
-Money makes it look like an SUV
-Brake dust
-Too many on the road
Old 09-02-2004, 04:09 AM
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2002 Mercedes Benz ML320
rough ride, (but hey, rough ride and excellent handling, or softy and tippy handling like a ford explorer?), the rear end looks too much like a minivan, my brother spilled soda on the cup holders on the back, so they are almost permantly stuck back there. and the ever so often on cold mornings, the engine will want to idle really bad and almost want to die.
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Originally Posted by ahopeter
... and the worthless cupholders.
You think these are bad, try a BMW!

Too many creaks and groans, even for an SUV.

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1990 190E 2.6, ... 1998 ML320, 2005 ML500SE
Wind Noise !

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ML320
I've had my 2000 ML320 for 14 days now. (22k miles, Starmarked)
My second MB (first was a 95 E320) and first SUV.

Don't like:

Brake dust
Turning radius
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One thing I dislike.....Too much plastic in the interior. Doesn't seem like a luxury SUV. Seems more like an american made jeep or ford.

Yeah, also the minivan rear end...that kinda sucks.
Old 09-02-2004, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiken
Don't like: ... Turning radius
Really? That's one of the things I DO like about it! 37 ft. curb to curb is not bad at all! One foot shorter than a Honda Pilot, and only 1.6 feet more than an Accord!
Old 09-02-2004, 05:02 PM
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99 ML 320, 97 Porsche 993 C2S, 92 300E
It's gas engine, not that there is anything wrong with it. I'd prefer a diesel in an SUV or anything for that matter other than a sports car, but in 1999 and even in 2004 I don't think MB has one for sale in the USA.
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1999 Kleemann ML43K
The only things I don't like about it exist on newer MLs:

One touch up and down windows.
rear quarter panel window vents[I don't have third row seating as some '99 MLs have the vents]
DVD or CD Navigation
Automatic climate control
built in compass
wheel turning radius
rain sensing wipers
rear seat center arm rest[nice but I don't ever sit back there!]

I like everything about my current ML for what it is. I like it better then newer MLs for various reasons as well like:
rearview inside and outside mirrors[larger size and lack of distortion]
suspension [yes I like it less soft and more truck-like]
Noise. I actually like the louder sound of the minimal door seals(I can hear my supersprint exhaust).
Placement of the central console controls...sure it's probably because I'm used to them. Every time I get a loaner I'm looking in the wrong place out of familiarity.
Center console cup holder. I can't stand the newer model cup holder. It sucks and take up too much valuable space[I agree though that the left cup holder is worthless...tall skinny things fly out of there like missles...I resolved by buying the drinkholders.com right side cupholder which only interferes with passenger leg room(not my concern!!)
I prefer the ashtray position as well and use the place where the new models have the ashtray as storage for my smokes[I also use the bin below the passenger cup holder for reserve smokes...maybe the newer MLs have this slot also...never noticed [no smoking allowed in loaners!!]

We all have individual tastes and I'm sure many of them will be adressed in the w164.
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The only thing I do not like about my ML is the frequent trips to the dealer because of little stuff breaking. and The front seats lack of support uncomfortable
Old 09-03-2004, 01:29 PM
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SL500 E320 ML350
I like most everything about the ML except the seats. I'm coming from a Range Rover and their seats are superior. I also drive an E500 - put those seats in and I'm happy! My wife ( who hates any new car/truck and wants the old one back) after four months LOVES the ML350! I'm sure she will hate me and the next new (whatever) for a few months too!!
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I agree

Originally Posted by 00ML430 Bulldog
The only thing I do not like about my ML is the frequent trips to the dealer because of little stuff breaking. and The front seats lack of support uncomfortable

The seats in an '04 Inspiration...maybe all '04s I don't know, are FAR superior to my '99. I just can't get comfortable in them and am constantly playing with the power controls...btu I'm 250 pounds and I think the previous owner may have been large also...oh well. Unless I lose weight I may have to replace the seats. Of course in three years when I want an '05 mL500 and they want to give me $10K for trade-in I may have to keep her till she dies...thus new seats are a must!
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2002 Mercedes Benz ML320
Originally Posted by ahopeter
... and the worthless cupholders.
crappy cupholders? wtf! ya, BMW cupholders are far worse, i fortuantly like my cupholders, except for when putting in the small propel bottles.
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2002 Mercedes Benz ML320
"One touch up and down windows."

dude, they are all two touch button windows.
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
Originally Posted by MadDawg
"One touch up and down windows."

dude, they are all two touch button windows.
older model ml's dont have one touch windows except for the front down.
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
Originally Posted by MadDawg
crappy cupholders? wtf! ya, BMW cupholders are far worse, i fortuantly like my cupholders, except for when putting in the small propel bottles.
you think the bm holders are worse than the side cup holders onthe ml? i disagree.... the only thing the ml's hold are a small cup of coffee.
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the SEATS!
Old 09-06-2004, 12:21 AM
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2014 ML350 BlueTec.
The ride quality.........the odd rattle and squeaks.....cheap leather...too much American..not enough German in this SUV...
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1999 ML430
-The lousy heater
-The front end "dive" when it goes over a speed bump or other obstacle
-The fact that I am stuck in Toronto 2,000 miles from home on Labo(u)r Day weekend with a completely failed transmission.
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W208 CLK320
It's a domestic (built in America), horrible reliability, and horrible resale value... also cheap materials, and it doesn't quite have the sleek/sophisticated MB look.
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1999 ML430
Oh, and the fact that top speed is governed to 116 mph. Surely this is on the U.S. versions but I drive this vehicle frequently in Mexico where Autobahn speeds are achievable on many of the tollways.


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