I think i got jipped
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I think i got jipped
, i took my benz into the dealership, (ford, mazda and mercedes benz, pretty much 98% personel ford/mazda), its been about 9000 miles since i did the oil change, well i had to get the brakes checked, sure enough, they were actually worn down 80%, i didnt notice much, i thought they were still good. i added a trailer hitch to it (they didnt include the ball, they said thats sold seperatly, even tho off the website mbusa.com, says it includes the ball.), the air directional thing in the back broke cause of my 3yr old nephew, and they suposivly fixed the constant beeping noise that happens to me every morning. but the car still idles rough, this is the first cold morning ive had here in oregon in a good 3 months now, and for about 5 minutes through stop lights the ml320 was idling really rough, it pretty much was jabbing a knife into its heart and was screaming to me to finish it off... ???? 
but the dealership costed me 700$, they cant even change the oil cause the dealership said the warranty only can do it every 10k miles, and it has 9000 on there (technicaly 8800), but big whoop?, the total mileage is 29,800 miles.
this is actually pissing me off, the dealership said i can only goto that dealership, i want to go up to salem oregon, a REAL benz dealership with REAL mercedes personel.
so how come the warranty doesnt covor the brake pads, discs and what not, and also, engine failure? i read in the warranty book, that it doesnt covor engine wear, engine damage, WTF?! this is the most worthless warranty i have ever seen in my entire life!
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i have had the tornado taken out of it for the past 5 days, and sure enough, it doesnt have as much power as it did, and now im getting 15mpg instead of 17mpg... 
, and like i said, this morning at 10pm, the engine idled really rough at a stop light, so tornado has no part in any of the problems, the dealership, also had re checked and re calibrated the computer, and still same problem, i havent heard the beeping thing yet tho like i said.
, and like i said, this morning at 10pm, the engine idled really rough at a stop light, so tornado has no part in any of the problems, the dealership, also had re checked and re calibrated the computer, and still same problem, i havent heard the beeping thing yet tho like i said.
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I don't know about the trailer hitch. We provide one for the customers, but I am virtually certain the benz kit does not include it.
Mercedes DOES NOT pay for service unless its within 1000 miles, sometimes 2000 miles until its due. It DOES NOT cover anything except the A and B services, which at most the only parts you are going to get is an oil and filter, wiper blades depending on year, and dust filter. They do not cover brakes. This is one of the reasons benz claims when they discontinued free maintenance. Nobody knows what is covered and what isn't, so now there is no argument. You pay for everything.
The warranty does cover the vehicle bumper to bumper, but includes the usual disclaimers of neglect, abuse, wear items, maintenance, etc... The engine is covered.
Your rough idle in the morning may be due to software issues. Have them check to see if you need an updated ME control unit, and have the idle speed raised to the max settings.
In any case, aftermarket modifications could cause problems, and the benz dealer is fully justified in having anything removed which could be causing an issue.
Mercedes DOES NOT pay for service unless its within 1000 miles, sometimes 2000 miles until its due. It DOES NOT cover anything except the A and B services, which at most the only parts you are going to get is an oil and filter, wiper blades depending on year, and dust filter. They do not cover brakes. This is one of the reasons benz claims when they discontinued free maintenance. Nobody knows what is covered and what isn't, so now there is no argument. You pay for everything.
The warranty does cover the vehicle bumper to bumper, but includes the usual disclaimers of neglect, abuse, wear items, maintenance, etc... The engine is covered.
Your rough idle in the morning may be due to software issues. Have them check to see if you need an updated ME control unit, and have the idle speed raised to the max settings.
In any case, aftermarket modifications could cause problems, and the benz dealer is fully justified in having anything removed which could be causing an issue.
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well, the computer got reconfigured, the throttle got changed a little bit, and so the car feels more responsive. the tornado is still out, but the gas mileage sucks right now. but on the trailer hitch, i can just buy a 5000lb hitch/ball for 30$ from a local store as i see in the paper.
how much would you think it would cost to get the whole Brabus brake system deal on my m class? i just want to compare prices to what i payed for at the dealership
how much would you think it would cost to get the whole Brabus brake system deal on my m class? i just want to compare prices to what i payed for at the dealership
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Originally Posted by MadDawg
well, the computer got reconfigured, the throttle got changed a little bit, and so the car feels more responsive. the tornado is still out, but the gas mileage sucks right now. but on the trailer hitch, i can just buy a 5000lb hitch/ball for 30$ from a local store as i see in the paper.
how much would you think it would cost to get the whole Brabus brake system deal on my m class? i just want to compare prices to what i payed for at the dealership
how much would you think it would cost to get the whole Brabus brake system deal on my m class? i just want to compare prices to what i payed for at the dealership
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
2six piston aluminum calipers front, 2 14" vented and slotted discs,2 four piston calipers rear, 2 14" vented rear discs, steel brake lines. and they throw in some pads. ohhh, but you need some 18's or bigger.
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18's are only stock on the 55... you sure you got 18's?
$13k... and i rounded down... and i didnt mention the extra $1500 for install. hey, you asked, i answered.
$13k... and i rounded down... and i didnt mention the extra $1500 for install. hey, you asked, i answered.
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stock 2002 ML320 has 18" wheels, i measured it about 3 times in a row, 18". the 98-01 had 16" wheels or something. i could have sworn the ML55 had 19" wheels.
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Originally Posted by MadDawg
stock 2002 ML320 has 18" wheels, i measured it about 3 times in a row, 18". the 98-01 had 16" wheels or something. i could have sworn the ML55 had 19" wheels.
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Originally Posted by MadDawg
stock 2002 ML320 has 18" wheels, i measured it about 3 times in a row, 18". the 98-01 had 16" wheels or something. i could have sworn the ML55 had 19" wheels.
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Originally Posted by 00ML430 Bulldog
18" wheels standard on a 320??? WTF am I missing something. Dude the 320 come with 16" standard unless you have the sport package then they would be 17" wheels.
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Originally Posted by LVDell
Do you really need to measure the wheel with a tape??? Detect my sarcsm here. Oh I don't know, maybe it would be easier to just READ THE TIRE SIDEWALL!
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Originally Posted by LVDell
so true. Actually, this thread is really amazing (and quite humorous). I have never heard of anybody using a tape to measure their wheel.
i think the whole tape measure thing came from watching too many rap videos with funk master flex.
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Showing the rim would be the easiest, but anyway, how can we determine anything from a tape measure showing us the last 2 inches of tape??? A pic of the whole measurement would be the best (measurement AND the rim in question).
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ML320's come with 17 inch rims.... also from what i understand the "rim size" is the inner diameter of the tire, not the diameter of the rim face. The Rim face obviously has to be larger than the inner diameter of the tire.. which is in this case 17 inches.
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well apparently you're right.... that book i told you guys about with the 18" wheel sign, was a book some guy at the dealership gave me, wasnt a genuine mercedes benz book, but it claimed that it had 18" wheels.
and the same guy who sold me this car, told me, and i asked him "what is the size of the wheels", and he said "18 inchers"
and the same guy who sold me this car, told me, and i asked him "what is the size of the wheels", and he said "18 inchers"
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Concerning the ball receiver for the MB hitch, it does not come with one for a good reason. You don't want a "one size fits all" for this part.
When you finally decide to tow something, you are going to have to pick a receiver that is the right height for what you want to tow. Then you are going to have to pick the correct ball for this receiver and that will fit the trailer that you want to tow. Every trailer is different, so you are going to have to have this information before you purchase the receiver and ball. BTW, they are not really that expensive. Less than $50 for a very good one.
When you finally decide to tow something, you are going to have to pick a receiver that is the right height for what you want to tow. Then you are going to have to pick the correct ball for this receiver and that will fit the trailer that you want to tow. Every trailer is different, so you are going to have to have this information before you purchase the receiver and ball. BTW, they are not really that expensive. Less than $50 for a very good one.
