When Will ML350 Get Direct Gas Injection?
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When Will ML350 Get Direct Gas Injection?
MBZ seems way behind the times. These other guys all have direct injection gasoline V6 engines that give more power and better mpg:
BMW - their 2008 X5 3.0 will have the 300HP D.I. engine with turbo (out this summer)
VW/Audi - their 3.6L V6 has 280 HP with D.I. (out now)
Porsche - their 3.6L V6 has 290 HP with D.I. for 2008 (out now)
Even Cadillac will have D.I. on their 3.6L V6 for 2008 with 300HP (out this summer)
What about Mercedes????????????
BMW - their 2008 X5 3.0 will have the 300HP D.I. engine with turbo (out this summer)
VW/Audi - their 3.6L V6 has 280 HP with D.I. (out now)
Porsche - their 3.6L V6 has 290 HP with D.I. for 2008 (out now)
Even Cadillac will have D.I. on their 3.6L V6 for 2008 with 300HP (out this summer)
What about Mercedes????????????
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MBZ seems way behind the times. These other guys all have direct injection gasoline V6 engines that give more power and better mpg:
BMW - their 2008 X5 3.0 will have the 300HP D.I. engine with turbo (out this summer)
VW/Audi - their 3.6L V6 has 280 HP with D.I. (out now)
Porsche - their 3.6L V6 has 290 HP with D.I. for 2008 (out now)
Even Cadillac will have D.I. on their 3.6L V6 for 2008 with 300HP (out this summer)
What about Mercedes????????????
BMW - their 2008 X5 3.0 will have the 300HP D.I. engine with turbo (out this summer)
VW/Audi - their 3.6L V6 has 280 HP with D.I. (out now)
Porsche - their 3.6L V6 has 290 HP with D.I. for 2008 (out now)
Even Cadillac will have D.I. on their 3.6L V6 for 2008 with 300HP (out this summer)
What about Mercedes????????????
I have had other people in this forum tell me to sell my vehicle and get one I like. My answer is, 1 year and 5 months
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I have been very vocal about my experiences with Mercedes here on this forum and it doesn't surprise me that this car doesn't have the technology capabilities as other cars in its league. Unfortunately my experience with Mercedes wasn't the greatest and the dealer I went to wasn't the most honest dealer in my area. My previous vehicle in a side by side comparison had more technology integrated into it then the ML I have. When I say technology, it doesn't only include the interior amenities, it includes the safety technologies also.
I have had other people in this forum tell me to sell my vehicle and get one I like. My answer is, 1 year and 5 months
I have had other people in this forum tell me to sell my vehicle and get one I like. My answer is, 1 year and 5 months
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I agree it isn't the end-all nor does it always mean superior either. I'm sure Mercedes will offer it sooner or later, but knowning this with more power than the competition. There is already a DI version of the 3.5L V6 in the European market only CLS350 CGI, it makes 292hp.
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Germancar1: "There is already a DI version of the 3.5L V6 in the European market only CLS350 CGI, it makes 292hp."
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
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Germancar1: "There is already a DI version of the 3.5L V6 in the European market only CLS350 CGI, it makes 292hp."
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
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Germancar1: "There is already a DI version of the 3.5L V6 in the European market only CLS350 CGI, it makes 292hp."
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
I didn't know about that version of the engine. Maybe it'll be here in the USA soon. Has anyone heard any rumors?
sosh: "Not only louder but far more injector maintenance down the road."
I had not heard that before. Are you basing the statement on current diesel injector maintenance requirements?
Also, I remember reading that direct gas injection forms more NOx which may be why it's taken so long to get it on the market.
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No, I am not basing this fact on Diesel injectors. The gas direct injectors have a substancially shorter life span than the type we use now and they are more expensive to replace. Remember that gas unlike diesel fuel has no lubricating qualities and that the head temps of gas engines is higher than that of diesels. I have seen this in applications of direct injectors in Gas engines powering other types of equipment. By the way, the highest performing car I own is carburated and as far as its performance it will leave most MB's in the dust.I personally believe that direct injection benefits have been very overstated.
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