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Old 03-20-2016, 02:23 PM
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Trade Comand NTG2.5 US head for EU head?

I have a 2009 ML550 that I brought with me from the US to Germany last summer. I have confirmed with HERE.COM (what used to be NavTeq) that the EU database cannot be loaded into this unit because the data format is different. So, I was wondering if anyone has an EU NTG 2.5 head they would like to trade from my US model. I am located in Berlin.

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Come on, there has to be someone importing an EU Merc with this Comand head who wants to convert to a US head. Anyone?
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Not likely, but you can buy one here:

https://www.commandonline.co.uk/COMA...d-Audio-Units/
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Originally Posted by marc hanna
Not likely, but you can buy one here:

https://www.commandonline.co.uk/COMA...d-Audio-Units/
Thank you, I wrote to them to see if they take US units in full or partial trade for EU units.
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Maybe hold on to the old one in case you move back
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Originally Posted by marc hanna
Maybe hold on to the old one in case you move back
The car is not going to go back with me if and when I return.

At any rate, Mark from COMAND replied and said I don't have to swap the head to get EU nav. He'll be taking care of me. Thanks again. Marc!
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Glad I could assist.
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That was painless. For £150 and shipping both ways they'll recode the head to accept EU dvd's and nav maps, as well as use the EU bands for the radio. I also purchased the EU maps, and they'll install them for me as well. I'm a happy camper.
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Awesome! I'm glad it worked out well for you.
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Marc,

This is not your fault, but the attempt turned into a disaster. I sent the unit, and then a day after it arrived MarK Baker said he had tried to update it but couldn't get it to work. He claims Star could not talk to the unit or apply updates -- however, I had the unit last updated at a Mercedes dealer in Boston on July 2015 as part of a scheduled service before I shipped the vehicle to Germany.

In the same message, he offered to upgrade the hardware for £1200, about 5x what I had already paid! I said no, and assumed he would pay for return postage, since I had paid to get it there and he couldn't do what he assured me he could do. He refused. I asked him to provide me with a reference for someone for whom he had doing the same thing before I would agree to pay for return postage, and he went ballistic on me, confirming that it was a crude bait-and-switch attempt. I had to pay DHL £100 to bring the unit back.

To top it off, when I told him to issue me a refund, he said he'd hold the money for the full 28 days he thinks the UK law allows him to, just because he didn't like my attitude. So, I went to AMEX, with which I had paid him through PayPal, and exercised my right to skip the PayPal dispute process and initiate a chargeback. Got my money credited in one day, pending the outcome of the investigation, which I have no doubt will be decided in my favor, given he admitted he could not do the work.

I'm sure others have done business with Comand/Mark Baker and had no problems. I'm not one of those, and will never do business with him again. Your mileage may vary. My recommendation is to not prepay anything from Comand until they deliver what they say they can deliver. I will buy my updates from a local dealer. I will also buy a used NTG 2.5 head here in Germany (there seem to be quite a few in the market for a little more than I would have paid Comand for the recoding and update) and then sell my US head unit.

As I said, thank you very much for trying to help me solve my problem. Not your fault this happened.

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Wow that sucks! I'm sorry you had such a bad experience. I've not actually used this vendor before, so I'm sorry I pointed him out to you.
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As I said, not your fault. No worries!
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There seems to be something going on in the autoparts industry. I went a over a decade with only one Paypal dispute, but in the last year I've had almost a dozen. Service has turned to crap and people don't deliver but they still want to be paid.

The new thing I see is, vendors ignore you until you open a dispute and then refuse to do anything unless you close the dispute. I only made that mistake once, I closed the dispute and then they went back to ignoring me. You can't reopen a dispute once it's been closed.

So, I agree with your choice to go through your credit card for a chargeback. It gives you that extra layer of protection.

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