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Can I replace a bi-xenon headlight with a halogen without any problems?

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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:00 AM
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Can I replace a bi-xenon headlight with a halogen without any problems?

I just wanted to know as the bi-xenons are expensive new and hard to find used. I would change both.

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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 12:17 PM
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I just wanted to know as the bi-xenons are expensive new and hard to find used. I would change both.

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No, they only made bi-xenon headlamps.
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 01:55 PM
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Mine has H7 bulbs instead of xenons. They were a really expensive option over here. You'd have to re-wire away with the ballast units and maybe do some coding on Star.
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by texterted
Mine has H7 bulbs instead of xenons. They were a really expensive option over here. You'd have to re-wire away with the ballast units and maybe do some coding on Star.
Yes, I have the same setup but I think, and I could be wrong, he is asking about the headlamps themselves. I wonder if they were damaged?
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Old Jan 10, 2019 | 02:24 PM
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Yes, I read it that he want's to change the headlamps and not just the bulbs.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 08:21 AM
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Correct. I just wanted to know if I were to remove the bi-xenons and replace with halogen would that cause any problems?
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kino1161
Correct. I just wanted to know if I were to remove the bi-xenons and replace with halogen would that cause any problems?
It's been 2 weeks since you started this thread and you have been MIA since.
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Old Jan 22, 2019 | 04:27 PM
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Your point?
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Halogens are real crap, terrible light, why would you make a backward change, except the money, think you'lll be sorry, but it's your car.
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Old Jan 23, 2019 | 07:55 AM
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Ok. I understand. Thanks, Tirgoman.
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I just wanted to know as the bi-xenons are expensive new and hard to find used. I would change both.

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Old Oct 6, 2023 | 12:57 AM
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Yes you can, but you'll likely need to tell the computer system about it with your special tool.

For those without experience ...

My GL with halogen lighting ugraded to +100% H7s has better night lighting than the HID lighting in my CL. It could be because the latter is clutterdd up with night vision but anyway that's the reality.
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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Yes you can, but you'll likely need to tell the computer system about it with your special tool.

For those without experience ...

My GL with halogen lighting ugraded to +100% H7s has better night lighting than the HID lighting in my CL. It could be because the latter is clutterdd up with night vision but anyway that's the reality.
You upgraded to what? You have a GL the came with halogen and upgraded the bulbs? I just didn't understand your post. I'm asking because I have H7 bulbs on my 11' and the lighting is weak. Looking for an upgrade to something brighter.
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Old Nov 9, 2023 | 01:48 AM
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On my W203 I set Bixenon to present far in advance of
installing. The ECU in that car at least, only cares going from Halogen to
Bix as Bix uses 35 watts and Halogen 55w (stock)
So, it thinks there is a problem too little power being drawn,
turns the headlights off and then on, repeat so they end up flashing.
Point being, I knew that I would be getting Bix at some point, and
had the opportunity to have local indy to do the coding for the ECU to "Present'
with the halogen still installed and no issues. I replaced a BIOS battery in his SDS laptop
he was very greatful.
One might assume that 164 would be the same.
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Originally Posted by lkchris
Yes you can, but you'll likely need to tell the computer system about it with your special tool.

For those without experience ...

My GL with halogen lighting ugraded to +100% H7s has better night lighting than the HID lighting in my CL. It could be because the latter is clutterdd up with night vision but anyway that's the reality.
The E55 projectors (made by Hella, not the car) have a tendency of burning out the reflector surface in HID applications. They easily lose at least half of their light output due to the burned surface. Simply replacing the projectors, keeping the same bulbs, made a world of a difference on my R500.

Originally Posted by shawndh
You upgraded to what? You have a GL the came with halogen and upgraded the bulbs? I just didn't understand your post. I'm asking because I have H7 bulbs on my 11' and the lighting is weak. Looking for an upgrade to something brighter.
I'm guessing he's referring to bulbs like these: https://a.co/d/jjeTyto

If you're not afraid of doing a retrofit, I would recommend swapping out the projectors for something better.

https://lightwerkz.net/collections/r...to-g5-brackets- these brackets will allow you to use one of many aftermarket projector options available. Alternatively, the Morimoto EvoX-R is a direct swap with no additional bracket needed. If you go HID, 50/55 watt ballasts will maximize light output and have the lowest likelihood of triggering headlamp warnings on cars coded for halogen. Lightwerkz usually runs 15% off sales every holiday so this coming up Black Friday might be the time to buy.
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Originally Posted by shawndh
You upgraded to what? You have a GL the came with halogen and upgraded the bulbs? I just didn't understand your post. I'm asking because I have H7 bulbs on my 11' and the lighting is weak. Looking for an upgrade to something brighter.
Avaailability of brighter H7 bulbs is widespread. Has been for 20+ years. But, not "Silverstars" from your FLAPS. They are junk.

https://www.powerbulbs.com/us/store/...fitting/h7-499

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