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Would be grateful if anyone knows the OE manufacturer for the brake pads on a 2014 W166 AMG (red callipers) or any other recommended aftermarket pads that perform to factory specs?
2010 Mercedes GL450; 2000 Mercedes ML55 AMG; 2016 VW GLI SEL Stick!!!
Originally Posted by ouroboros
Hello all,
Would be grateful if anyone knows the OE manufacturer for the brake pads on a 2014 W166 AMG (red callipers) or any other recommended aftermarket pads that perform to factory specs?
Many thanks
Ferodo is front. Pagid is rear I believe. You can also get brembo ceramic for the rear I believe
That's hogwash man. If you feel more comfortable paying a premium for the same part be my guest but fcp euro is a highly rated and trustworthy parts outfit.
The prices shown are not even "cheap" when compared to what you can get for this car at rockauto ; another trusted parts store.
That's hogwash man. If you feel more comfortable paying a premium for the same part be my guest but fcp euro is a highly rated and trustworthy parts outfit.
The prices shown are not even "cheap" when compared to what you can get for this car at rockauto ; another trusted parts store.
MSRP for the real OEM rear pads is $260. If someone sells equivalent for $64, great, you can buy them. (BTW, in picture above I do not see MB emblems - I just went to that site - these are absolutely not OEM MB pads, equivalent OE like, but not genuine MB parts, there's no question about it.). If it is too good to be true, it usually is. I do not want to use any brake components on ML63 that my dealer would not install, my life depends on it and I value it far more than $200something. My opinion, which I'm entitled to, as well as you are to yours.
Last edited by threeMBs; 03-20-2019 at 07:53 PM.
Reason: Ferodo are not genuine MB pads fro ML63.
2010 Mercedes GL450; 2000 Mercedes ML55 AMG; 2016 VW GLI SEL Stick!!!
Originally Posted by threeMBs
MSRP for the real OEM rear pads is $260. If someone sells equivalent for $64, great, you can buy them. (BTW, in picture above I do not see MB emblems). If it is too good to be true, it usually is. I do not want to use any brake components on ML63 that my dealer would not install, my life depends on it and I value it far more than $200something. My opinion, which I'm entitled to, as well as you are to yours.
Oe is the same genuine part without logos or logo taken off. The same one your dealer would use.
Oem is manufacturer who makes oe and genuine parts for a car manufacturer. This doesn't mean they make the part for the manufacturer you are buying.
Oee is aftermarket
Genuine is part with with mb logo
The front pads are oe ferodo....the rears it clearly says oem.
The rears are most likely (as are most mb pads) made by pagid.
The rear pagids are indeed more than 64$
But even if you wanted genuine mb pads, you would be crazy to get them for 260. You can get them for 184$
It pays to be an educated consumer and shop around.
But even if you wanted genuine mb pads, you would be crazy to get them for 260. You can get them for 184$
It pays to be an educated consumer and shop around.
Hate to repeat myself, but unlike oil/air/cabin filters, brake parts and especially for AMG, only genuine MB parts will do (at least for me). Please, do not put words into my mouth - never said to buy them for $260 (I said MSRP of genuine MB pads is $260). In links that I provided, fronts are $184 shipped by an actual MB dealer, rears are $199 shipped(which is the same as $184 + shipping from genuine MB online suppliers, like the one you posted). I am not (nor should anyone else be) interested in non-genuine MB pads for AMG. OP asked I assume for manufacturers of the genuine MB pads (I'm paraphrasing), not just OE like. In Amazon pictures, manufacturers names are clear. You seem very opinionated, but so am I.
Last edited by threeMBs; 03-20-2019 at 08:20 PM.
Reason: Brembo front and Textar rear.
W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
Ferodo fronts and Pagid rears? I don't think so. Given how different pad compounds have a different coefficient of friction, initial bite and release characteristics, there is no way that MB would use two different manufacturers for the front and rear pads on the same vehicle (and especially on an AMG) even if they are made to their own spec.
AMG does infact use different manufacturers depending on the caliper. The 8 pistons use Jurid I believe.
BTW I bought brand new AMG pads and they were horribly dusty. They say Textar on the metal plate and printed with Brembo with a Mercedes logo. I'm not obsessive over performance, so I bought aftermarket ceramic based pads.
W204 C63 Coupe, W166 ML350 BlueTEC, 928GT, C5 Z06 & IS300 race cars, EQE 4Matic+ on order
kombifan & johnnyc - you may indeed be correct. I called my P-car shop and they told me that at various times they have seen pads made by TRW, Textar and Pagid come out of original Porsche boxes, which would also appear the be the case here. I am quite puzzled and intrigued by the Textar backing plate and the Brembo logo on that pad, but that also adds weight to the argument that the backing plates could have been made by Textar and this particular compound by Brembo.
What I also found out from a different and reliable source is that regardless of the actual manufacturer, the friction compound (i.e. pad material) is specific and proprietary to Mercedes and no brake pad manufacturer can produce and sell the same friction compound under their own name. So - whatever pads the OEM manufacturers like Ferodo, Brembo, Textar, TRW and the like may sell has to be different from the MB compound. It may only be 2% different, but they can't use the same compound as the Mercedes branded ones.
Indeed you did. The part that puzzles me even more now though is that in the pic of the front pad that jonnyc posted, the plate is made by Textar (you can clearly see TEXTAR embossed in the steel) but the pad label says Brembo. AFAIK Brembo and Textar are separate companies with no common ownership. That's like a tire with the sidewall made by Michelin and the tread by Pirelli... figure that one out.
[QUOTE=JohnnyC;7711724]AMG does infact use different manufacturers depending on the caliper. The 8 pistons use Jurid I believe.
BTW I bought brand new AMG pads and they were horribly dusty. They say Textar on the metal plate and printed with Brembo with a Mercedes logo. I'm not obsessive over performance, so I bought aftermarket ceramic based pads. [/
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Where the above pads for W166 ML63AMG with Performance package (red calipers)?
Just received my pads (pictures below). They are clearly different (part numbers and imprints) from the above pictures. No Brembo imprints. More importantly par numbers are different. Looks like pads are also made my TEXTAR. (So both front and rear pads for ML63 performance package - red calipers - are made by Textar).
Theres nothing except for smooth gloss like black surface under blue "tape".
Indeed you did. The part that puzzles me even more now though is that in the pic of the front pad that jonnyc posted, the plate is made by Textar (you can clearly see TEXTAR embossed in the steel) but the pad label says Brembo. AFAIK Brembo and Textar are separate companies with no common ownership. That's like a tire with the sidewall made by Michelin and the tread by Pirelli... figure that one out.
Based on my post above, the only logical explanation to picture posted by "jonnyc" is that pad is made by Textar but only for Brembo made caliper which is what MB is using at least for Performance package ML63s. So now we know that front and rear pads for ML63 (at least with performance package, a.k.a. red calipers) are made by Textar. So I stand corrected of my earlier post that front where made by Brembo (got confused by the imprint).
03-20-2019, 06:52 AM
