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Never ending P0171 P0174 at idle

Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Never ending P0171 P0174 at idle

On my 02 S55 160k miles I've been trying to solve these codes. The p0171 and p0174 only gets set after an extended period of driving and only at an idle. I've found good reason to change the following parts which have not solved my problem:

1. OE Mass air flow
2. New k&n filters
3. OE fuel filter
4. Valve cover gaskets and pcv hoses
5. Right side diverter valve

I ordered new intake manifold gaskets to be installed tomorrow. Any other suggestions?
My sds shows all o2 sensors are working correctly.

Is there a common place the intake manifold may have a hair line crack?
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Old Dec 8, 2013 | 04:45 PM
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I replaced the TB to Elbow rubber seal and reset the mixture adaption. So far 100 miles with out the code coming back on, all monitors are ready except for the evap, I've tried to complete the drive cycle twice.

The old seal was starting to get hard and would crack a bit when you bend it. I would say its safe to assume when your pcv hoses start getting brittle you can expect this seal to start going bad also.
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Old Dec 15, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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After 300 miles the codes have came back on.

I think I'll end up buying a smoke machine.

For future search purposes my iPad scanner shows these codes as P0170 & P0173 where as my sds shows P0171 & p0174

Also to add to the parts replaced list is:
#6 OE maf rubber seal and TB rubber seal
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Smoke machine is pushing smoke out the egr vent. Is this normal when no vacuum is applied to the egr?
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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 11:33 PM
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I put some duct tape over the 3 ports. The CEL went off after 3 short drives with all monitors set. A new EGR should be the final solution.
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