Notices
Mercedes Tech Talk Discuss general technical questions and issues about your Mercedes-Benz. Moderated by a certified MB Tech.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Hazard Lamp - Different Flashing Feequency

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old May 3, 2002 | 03:16 PM
  #1  
Darkmann's Avatar
Thread Starter
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 864
Likes: 1
ML
Hazard Lamp - Different Flashing Feequency

'01E430:
Just checking if this is the way the hazard lights work. When engine is on, they flash "regularly" at even intervals, like this: dit-dat-dit-dat-dit-dat. When engine is off, they flash faster at irregular intervals, like this: dit.dat---dit.dat---dit.dat. Got it? Is that how they work normally or is there something wrong? And why are they programmed to work like that?
Reply
Old May 3, 2002 | 03:40 PM
  #2  
sosh's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,260
Likes: 6
From: Philadelphia area
2010 ML550, 2010 E350 4M, 1966 Corvette Convt C2
Don't know if they are programmed to work that way but it could be due to the voltage variation, lower when the engine is off.
Reply
Old May 4, 2002 | 01:30 AM
  #3  
Kar don's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,640
Likes: 11
From: GMT -8 hours
Mercedes-Benz
our 99 ML320 does the same thing... I believe it is normal. BTW, I dont see how the voltage would vary with the engine off. 12 Volt battery is a 12 volt battery.
Reply
Old May 4, 2002 | 01:55 PM
  #4  
Mike T.'s Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,377
Likes: 1
From: Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada
2005 smart cabrio; 2008 Mercedes-Benz B 200
voltage

Originally posted by AlBoston
our 99 ML320 does the same thing... I believe it is normal. BTW, I dont see how the voltage would vary with the engine off. 12 Volt battery is a 12 volt battery.
Sure, the same 12 V battery is there, but:

1) with the engine off, static battery voltage is actually higher than 12 V - usually 12.6 to 12.9 V in a fully charged battery;

2) with the engine (and alternator, of course) running, the voltage would be up to 14.4 V.

Conclusion: yes, there actually is a difference between the voltage with the engine on and off, which could explain the different cadence of the hazard signal.
Reply
Old May 4, 2002 | 01:57 PM
  #5  
sosh's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 4,260
Likes: 6
From: Philadelphia area
2010 ML550, 2010 E350 4M, 1966 Corvette Convt C2
Yes, 12V battery is 12 volts, however when the engine is running the system is at about 13.75 volts as thats what the alternator puts out. The battery is actually at a bit more than 12 Volts also while not running if its fully charged.
Reply
Old May 4, 2002 | 04:49 PM
  #6  
mbtech208's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 2,332
Likes: 1
From: Bloomington, IN
1997 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
I don't know the reason, but here's my educated guess. Maybe the different flashing frequency with the engine off less of a power consumer than the frequency with the engine on. If you think about it, when you have the engine off and the flashers on, usually you are broken down on the side of the road, so the flashers tend to stay on for a long time. How many times have you driven past a car on the side of the road that has had the flashers on for so long the lights barely illuminate at all? I think it's designed to save a little battery power.
Reply
Old May 26, 2002 | 08:17 AM
  #7  
patrick's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
From: Belgium
It is the SAM (I do not know how it is called in English, but in German it is Signalerfass- und Ansteuerungsmodul), which is a sort of ECU, that picks up the signal from the hazard light switch and makes the hazard lights flash.
I do not think that battery voltage has a direct influence on the flashing frequency for as long as it is above a certain value (e.g. 11,5 V). Maybe the flashing frequency does not change under a certain voltage but hazard light function just stops working? Mercedes says hazard lamp frequency should be 1,5 Hz (three times within two seconds).
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:35 AM.

story-0
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-1
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE
story-4
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction

Slideshow: The 190E Evolution II shows how a homologation necessity became a six-figure collector icon.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:53:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes is turning one of its core nameplates electric, and the details show just how serious this shift is.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:58:06


VIEW MORE
story-6
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know

Slideshow: Faster charging, longer range, and a controversial steer-by-wire system define the latest evolution of Mercedes-Benz EQS.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-15 10:35:34


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve

Slideshow: These overlooked Mercedes-Benz models never got the spotlight, but they quietly delivered more than most remember.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-13 19:35:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping

Slideshow: A well-used 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300D with more than one million miles is now looking for a new owner, and it still appears ready for more.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-10 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used

Slideshow: From bulletproof sedans to surprisingly tough SUVs, these Mercedes models proved that the three-pointed star can go the distance.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-08 09:55:49


VIEW MORE