Riffyb

Ive always wondered between the 2. In an overall comparasion which comes out on top?

Also what are the pros and cons of both these vehicles. I know the Jeep is at least 40k less. but then again its a Jeep.

EX-BEEMER

I never even seriously considered an SRT8. I looked at one at the Detroit Auto Show last winter and didn't care for it. Too much plastic. It has even less off road capability than does the ML, strictly a street machine. Plus you can't tow with the Jeep because the twin exaust pipes exit the bumper at the center. The performance numbers are 420hp on the Jeep vs. 503hp on the ML, so the Benz wins that hands down. Not sure about 0-60 times. The overall appearance of the Jeep isn't bad. Nice and aggressive. But it doesn't have the class of the ML.

Don't get me wrong, at 45K, it's a real performance bargain. It just wasn't for me right now. I love my AMG's.

PhilS

According to Motor Trend the Jeep SRT8 numbers are:
0 to 60 MPH - 4.8 seconds
1/4 mile: 13.5 seconds @ 101.6 MPH

According to Mercedes Benz USA the ML63 AMG numbers are:
0 to 60 MPH - 4.8 seconds

So, the ML doesn't win the "performance numbers hands down". The ML is the overall superior vehicle, but the Jeep does real well in acceleration, handling (.92 g on the skidpad) and braking (60 to 0 MPH in 125 feet). If performance is all you are buying your SUV for, then you may want to consider the Jeep. It gives such impressive numbers from less horsepower because it weighs less. If performance is the only criteria, those of us who bought Cayennes and ML63's got had.

Phil

Riffyb

thanks for the input guys. AND yes the ML is far superior.

Eye_Candy

Actually, the jeep SRT8 can tow.

"3,500-pound towing capability with Mopar tow package" from http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...13/021805.html

My neighbour has a black one. I agree that the ML is superior in a number of areas (refinement) but I don't look down on the jeep. It's a hell of a deal for the price as are all the SRT's. My hat is off to DC for bringing this whole lineup.

Kinda like comparing a Camaro to a Corvette!

MSDLTD

Which one would survive:
a. A roll over at 60 mph.
b. A side collision from a hummer going 30 mph
c. A front end collision at 45 mph.
d. A peterbuilt semi hitting your rear end at 80mph

Which car would survive better in each of these scenarios?


The extra 40 g's is a life insurance policy

v8plus4

I think what ex-beemer meant was that the ML's 503hp is greater than the Jeep's 420hp.

I'm no mathematician, but...

PhilS

I believe that most of us realize that 503hp is greater than 420hp. But that is not what he said. "Performance" and horsepower do not directly relate as seen in the comparison of the ML63 to the Jeep.

Ex-beemer said "The performance numbers are 420hp on the Jeep vs. 503hp on the ML, so the Benz wins that hands down". If ex-beemer said "the horspower numbers are" (instead of "the performance numbers are")........he obviously is correct. I just wonder about his definition of "performance". I am not sure what "the Benz wins that hands down" means. Is it necessarily better to have more horsepower even if vehicles with considerably less horsepower meet or beat the performance of the higher HP vehicle? A lot of ML63 owners have made the point that their 503hp vehicle can beat the 521hp Cayenne Turbo S in an acceleration contest.

No big thing, but if you look at the "performance" numbers of the Jeep, it certainly can keep up with some much more expensive and higher HP SUV's like the ML63 and Cayenne Turbo.

Having said that, I wouldn't want the Jeep. I think the Cayenne and ML's are vastly superior vehicles.

Phil

HanselLee

No comparison ... like comparing a Hyundai Santa Fe and an X5 ..... really stupid.. you are wasting bandwidth!!!

Fikse

I doubt either would do very well....

MBH

I did get a ride in a new ML63 at AMGFest this year. The new ML63 would eat a Jeep SRT for lunch. It is that fast. I own a '05 Jeep with Hemi and the ML is heads and shoulders above the Jeep in quality and interior is way nicer. I may just get rid of the Jeep next year and for an ML63 it is so amazing. Now I just have to start saving

F10 M5

before anyone makes assumptions of the srt8 jeep someone should read the november issue of road and track. For a 45K performance SUV it outperforms everything unfortuanltey road and track did not have an ML63 to test or the turbo s

also the srt 8 is in the same family and uses some of MB parts- did anyone know that the SRT8 uses the AMG transmission that was used in the E55? also uses brembo brakes and the same structs and shocks that are in the current ML 63?

granted the srt 8 can not be offroaded and does not have the nice interior as the ML but when you have kids in the back throwing food and drinks all over the place some plastic for easy cleaning is great.

one more note, for adults on verry long trips or over bumps the ride can be a little harsh in the back but the driver and passenger seats are very very comfortable.

also there are not mass produced for 2006 there were only 2,500 built in the US and the same for 2007.

BoBcanada

would be not surprised to find out it uses the same engine but DETUNED.

NY C32

Its a good thing you're not an underwriter... The ML and more importantly, your passengers, wouldn't fair well in any of these situations

terrence

For me, just the fact that I don't like the interior and exterior of the Jeep is enough to not have that as part of my consideration. It may be as fast or close to an ML63, but all those amenities (leather dash, leather door panels, ride quality, keyless-go, rear view camers, power trunk opener and closer, etc) and overall quality make the ML an easy choice. The Cayenne turbo S was my only other consideration, but having had two in the past and knowing that a new one is 6 months away swayed me towards the AMG.

1FASTMB2

I was all ready to put a down payment on a ML63 in August based on speculative pricing...even my dealer's regional sales manager thought it would base no more than 70k. I loved the aggressive look of the ML63 but I wasn't overly impressed with the progress of the ML63 interior versus the previous generation (a MB vehicle should be a lot nicer on the interior than this...navigation, audio and HVAC controls look really low rent) but thought for that price it was a fair compromise. When the final pricing came out I decided there is no way that this SUV was worth nearly 100k fully loaded (get killed on the resale value...MB trying too hard to build to a price point to match Porsche). I would much rather spend that amount of money on a much more upscale E63, but as I now live in a snow prone area, I need a 4 wheel drive vehicile, I will most likely be trading my 2002 C32 for a 2007 Jeep SRT8.

You sure can't beat the performance for the price and even though it may not quite be upto the same quality and feature level as a MB I think I won't mind too much. As an added bonus the DVD naviagation system in the Jeep acutally covers my hometown whereas the MB only showed the interstates. It will be nice knowing I have some money left for a summer toy like a Cayman S or another Z06. I will be envious of all the owners of an ML63 as it is a better looking vehicle than the Jeep, but I will avoid the guilt complex of knowing that an ML63 is not worth and extra 50k over the jeep.

I will wait for the C63 to be the next AMG vehicle in my garage. That car should be a monster if they bring at least 450HP to the table and keept the weight in check.

AMG 17GT

Did I hear that for 2007, srt8 was going to have a upgraded interior? That to me would make a big difference in that vehicle.

F10 M5

I think the upgraded interior will be for 2008.

MKB-C32

The SRT is faster than E55 and M5 V10 from 0-60

Ted Baldwin

.............that is indeed correct. It is something that many are shocked to hear. The 4wheel drive and high torque, propel these cars to incredible 0-60mph times before areodynamics take over. I am not sure that I prefer the Dodge SRT8 to the ML63, but the dodge is nothing to sneeze at. For those that care, the ML63 is made in Alabama, the SRT8 is made in Austria. So long for American vs European made snobbery. If you like the jeep, but hate the interior, for $5K you can have the entire interior re-done to your liking.

Ted

MKB-C32

Thats right and many of us don't want to believe that.
The first time when i heard that the SRT 300C can smoke the E55 i said what a joke the E55 is more powerful than the SRT and less weight also, but at the real life when we tried the E55 with the 300C the guy smoked the E55 veery bad , and i shocked more when he told me that the Jeep is faster than his car so now guys if you see any SRT jeeb at the stop light try to do any thing or show the guy thats you're buzy talking on the phone.

BoBcanada

w211 body?

Ted Baldwin

i figured he meant the W210

Ted

MKB-C32

No Sir, I'm talking about the Kompressor

Ted Baldwin

.........this is probably just a missunderstanding. The W211 E55 does 0-60 in under 4.5 secs. The SRT8 0-60 4.9 to 5.2 secs depending on the source. Stock G55 0-60 4.7 secs. The STR8 is not even as fast as the stock G55 from 0-60.

Ted