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Old 08-27-2018, 10:40 AM
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There is no “Mercedes-Benz” way. There are third party solutions, but there is no way I would allow a non-factory authorized dealer to modify the electronics in my car, especially while it is under factory warranty. For me, it’s depress the brake pedal, hit the start button, hit the ECO button, toggle to the “Curve” setting, select the gear................and away we FINALLY go!
Thanks, not what I wanted to hear, but something about not shooting a messenger :-)
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You know, this seems like a job for a 555 timer and a monostable flip-flop.

When the car gets keyed on, the flip-flop is initialized to 0V,
after 5 seconds, the MSFF transitions to 5V and activates the ES-stop button,
after 1 second the MSFF transitions back to 0V for the rest of the trip.

I used to build stuff like this for $5 and a trip to Radio Crap.

Getting access to the ES-button would be harder than everything else involved.
The car would simply think the driver had hit the ES button, no change to any firmware.
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I'M a dealer for MID CITY and has sold a slew of these! It's a simple install and won't void you warranty and the dealer can't even see that's it's on there when plugged in. Many in FL deal with a lot of heat and high temps and they love this!
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Originally Posted by Streamliner View Post
There is no “Mercedes-Benz” way. There are third party solutions, but there is no way I would allow a non-factory authorized dealer to modify the electronics in my car, especially while it is under factory warranty. For me, it’s depress the brake pedal, hit the start button, hit the ECO button, toggle to the “Curve” setting, select the gear................and away we FINALLY go!
I'm fascinated by "Curve" setting. I imagine this also applies to the 2019 S450, correct?
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I know how to do this when I get in the car but can it be turned off long term?
Nope, not really a big deal as I just put the car in sport or press the eco button every time I get in the car.


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Lol, and that’s why a product exists because you’re gonna forget and get annoyed. Like a crying baby when you hold it and as soon as you stop it cries again. Same annoyance. Lol.

I just don’t like manufactures making decisions for me that I can’t cbange. But that’s where the aftermarket comes in to benefit us.
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I'm fascinated by "Curve" setting. I imagine this also applies to the 2019 S450, correct?
Models without 4matic only.
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Models without 4matic only.
That's a bummer, but when you live in IA 4Matic is a MUST.
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That's a bummer, but when you live in IA 4Matic is a MUST.
Magic Body Control is another thing not available on 4matics. Like around here in Canada, 4Matic is a must, but it sucks not having the curve function or MBC.
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there is also this option:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649

Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
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Originally Posted by ML400 View Post
there is also this option:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649

Turns off the eco start when you hit the button, and the system remembers your selection. if off it stays off until you hit the button again... if you turn it on it stays on until you turn it on again.
Ah, gee, I don’t think that little widget is made by or approved by Mercedes-Benz, and I would not put my factory warranty in jeopardy, by installing that little gizmo, just to save me pushing one button after start up. IF the factory authorized dealer would install it, then I’d be good to go.
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Ah, gee, I don’t think that little widget is made by or approved by Mercedes-Benz, and I would not put my factory warranty in jeopardy, by installing that little gizmo, just to save me pushing one button after start up. IF the factory authorized dealer would install it, then I’d be good to go.
Considering it just flips a bit from a setting, the dealer (much less a tech) will never know its there. They don't dig into code. They run diagnostics and will update versions which would erase the bit that was flipped. then you just plug it in again and let it flip the bit. For the dealer to know its there, they would have to have a tech that could read 500K lines of code and recognize a zero that should have been a one. If you find that tech let me know because I have some other work for him to do as he is wasting his time working as a tech for a stealership.
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oh and do you think mercedes writes the software for their cars? they don't and neither do any other car manufacturer. They outsource that stuff.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/MERCEDES-ca...53.m1438.l2649
it says it doesn't work on MY18 facelift version....darn!
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I have this on my facelift S560, and it is great to have. The seller gives great service, so just message him with your WIN, and he will tell you if it works. He has 5 version of each module. I bought 3 different, Auto on/off, AMG logo and one more i forgot. Will edit if i remember.

You can do the uninstall when the car is in for service, and i usually do that. I forgot it this time, and the tech did not mention it. And he was diagnosing for engine/transmission problem, so he probably looked hard.

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Originally Posted by superangrypenguin View Post
Models without 4matic only.
And you have to have a V8 to get the Magic Body Control, and not on the S63AMG. I think you can get it on the S65, but that is not practical for me.

Magic Body Control is Awesome, and the curve function is the big surprise in my car, its great! Every car should have this.

I dont need 4matic, and i dont think many NEED it. Winter tires is more important. I drive on snow and ice in the winter and proper tires is the key. But of course there will be some steep hills you cannot drive up. Should you?

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look at the systems in the cars as a sealed computer that only has logs for the techs to look at. they can access features and turn stuff off and on but MB doesn't want them to have the ability to dig too deep. when they get stumped they reflash the system.... not really trouble shooting much anymore.
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If any of you find it annoying to have to disable Eco mode every time you get into the vehicle, we make a solution to this issue. It is programmed to shut off Eco mode every time you start the vehicle, but the Eco function can be turned on and resumed at any time. Lots of satisfied customers. Check it out!

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Compatibility

ECO205
C Class sedan 2015-2018
C Class coupe 2016-2018
GLC 2015-2018
E Class 2017-2018

ECO212
C Class sedan 2012-2014
C Class coupe 2012-2015
CLA 2015-2018
CLS 2013-2018
E Class 2012-2016
G Wagon 2014-2018
GLK 2012-2015
GL 2012-2016
GLE 2016-2018
GLS 2016-2018
GLA 2015-2018
ML 2012-2015
Metris 2016-2018
SL 2013-2018
SLK 2012-2016

ECO222
S Class 2014-2018
GT S 2014-2018

ECO221
S Class 2012-2013
CL 2012-2013
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If any of you find it annoying to have to disable Eco mode every time you get into the vehicle, we make a solution to this issue. It is programmed to shut off Eco mode every time you start the vehicle, but the Eco function can be turned on and resumed at any time. Lots of satisfied customers. Check it out!

8 Second Demo Video Here!

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Also, be sure to use coupon code MBWSEP10 at checkout for 10% off your purchase made in the month of September 2018!

Compatibility

ECO205
C Class sedan 2015-2018
C Class coupe 2016-2018
GLC 2015-2018
E Class 2017-2018

ECO212
C Class sedan 2012-2014
C Class coupe 2012-2015
CLA 2015-2018
CLS 2013-2018
E Class 2012-2016
G Wagon 2014-2018
GLK 2012-2015
GL 2012-2016
GLE 2016-2018
GLS 2016-2018
GLA 2015-2018
ML 2012-2015
Metris 2016-2018
SL 2013-2018
SLK 2012-2016

ECO222
S Class 2014-2018
GT S 2014-2018

ECO221
S Class 2012-2013
CL 2012-2013
I'm interested in upgrading exhaust with electronic Valves. The vendor sells a Wireless remote or hard wire a switch. Do you have something that will trigger the valves when I hit Sport mode on the car. That would be sweet. Nice, quiet and refined, then when the wife an kids are away Sport and Varoom... Looking at Renntech ECU that dealer will install to bump the ponies...
2014 S550 Sport 4 Matic..

And lots of us are patiently waiting for the Remote Start
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I'm interested in upgrading exhaust with electronic Valves. The vendor sells a Wireless remote or hard wire a switch. Do you have something that will trigger the valves when I hit Sport mode on the car. That would be sweet. Nice, quiet and refined, then when the wife an kids are away Sport and Varoom... Looking at Renntech ECU that dealer will install to bump the ponies...
2014 S550 Sport 4 Matic..

And lots of us are patiently waiting for the Remote Start
Thanks for the suggestion -- we get a fair amount of these vehicles through our facility, and we will make a note to take a look at the next one that comes through. This way we can see if this can become a reality. We'll try and work on it, and the remote starter is something still in the works also. Thanks for being a supporter of what we do -- Cheers!
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