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Old 02-09-2018, 04:21 PM
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2018 SClass with Panorama roof increased noise

i have just learned that the panorama roof on the new SClass permits for more exterior noise penetration into the cabin than the non pano S Class cars.
My new car came with it. I didn’t order it. Now what?

i believe Streamliner had issues w/ the pano roof. Here’s another one.
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i have just learned that the panorama roof on the new SClass permits for more exterior noise penetration into the cabin than the non pano S Class cars.
My new car came with it. I didn’t order it. Now what?

i believe Streamliner had issues w/ the pano roof. Here’s another one.
Panorama roofs are standard in the US and cannot be purchased without. Very much to Streamliners dismay
I am curious what makes you think that the Panorama roof makes more noise than your previous S550 with Panorama roof. There has not been any technical changes AFAIK and the previous W222's weren't available without one either...
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Panorama roofs are standard in the US and cannot be purchased without. Very much to Streamliners dismay
I am curious what makes you think that the Panorama roof makes more noise than your previous S550 with Panorama roof. There has not been any technical changes AFAIK and the previous W222's weren't available without one either...
my 2018 560 is much noiser in the interior cabin than my former 2015 550. Noise is penetrating from somewhere into the passenger cabin either through the door / window seals or elsewhere. The 560 is nearly identical to my much quieter 550 with the exception of the pano roof.
Dealer service staff has arranged a meeting with the zone engineer. I believe you suggested this. Thx. A friend who owns Beverly Coachcraft in LA is thinking the exterior noise may be getting in thru the pano roof for various reasons; polymer glued on, less insulation, etc.
I’ll get to the bottom of it. Really ruining my ownership experience. I swear my SL65 has better exterior noise isolation. That’s just silly.
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I too am under the impression the new S560 has more cabin noise than the pre facelift model. Almost sounds as if a window isn’t fully closed.
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I too am under the impression the new S560 has more cabin noise than the pre facelift model. Almost sounds as if a window isn’t fully closed.
EXACTLY!!! I keep lifting up on the window controls to make sure they are fully closed.
I think it’s the pano roof. If not, door seals or window fitment.

Did you discuss with your dealer?
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EXACTLY!!! I keep lifting up on the window controls to make sure they are fully closed.
I think it’s the pano roof. If not, door seals or window fitment.

Did you discuss with your dealer?
Not yet. I did european delivery and the car is currently enroute to stateside.
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my 2018 560 is much noiser in the interior cabin than my former 2015 550. Noise is penetrating from somewhere into the passenger cabin either through the door / window seals or elsewhere. The 560 is nearly identical to my much quieter 550 with the exception of the pano roof.
Dealer service staff has arranged a meeting with the zone engineer. I believe you suggested this. Thx. A friend who owns Beverly Coachcraft in LA is thinking the exterior noise may be getting in thru the pano roof for various reasons; polymer glued on, less insulation, etc.
I’ll get to the bottom of it. Really ruining my ownership experience. I swear my SL65 has better exterior noise isolation. That’s just silly.
I was actually thinking about your car when I read Skerdian’s European Delivery details as he mentioned the same noise level change.

I have not experiened pano roof noise but everything is possible. You could try to identify and measure the noise intrusion by using an app on your phone. There are several apps to measure dB levels.
If not too risky you could hold the phone in various locations while driving and hopefully identify an exact location with the highest dB level.
Then go from there with driving a couple other ones. Perhaps grab a used pre-facelift from the dealer for a comparo.

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The only noise I get from my Pano Roof in my 2015 is creaking. No wind noise at all. If what is reported here is a glitch in the 2018 models, IMO, that is a huge deal, but I can’t believe it isn’t a simple fix, once located.
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The only noise I get from my Pano Roof in my 2015 is creaking. No wind noise at all. If what is reported here is a glitch in the 2018 models, IMO, that is a huge deal, but I can’t believe it isn’t a simple fix, once located.
Just to clarify, there is NO wind noise...zero. Its ambient sound entering the passenger cabin...as if the driver's door or window was not fully closed.
I'm worried. I believe it is the pano roof & can't imagine how to correct it.
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Just to clarify, there is NO wind noise...zero. Its ambient sound entering the passenger cabin...as if the driver's door or window was not fully closed.
I'm worried. I believe it is the pano roof & can't imagine how to correct it.
I'm itching to test drive a 2018 just so that I can experience this problem. Glad I have a 2017. But I too have an issue with noises which include rattling, buzzing sounds which come from up above the rear view mirror where all the cameras are located. The shell of plastic needs to be attached in a way to absorb vibrations without making a fuss. I also hear a lot of squeaking and rattling in the right rear passenger seat/door/pillar areas. A buzzing rattle also just started up in the driver's door. I've never had so many noises in a car before. I often suspect the increasing number of airbags and their containments are the problem. Perhaps the airbag connectors, clips, etc are causing it. I also blame the rear window shade flaps that open as a partial reason for the buzzing and rattling.
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Originally Posted by HSCLA
Just to clarify, there is NO wind noise...zero. Its ambient sound entering the passenger cabin...as if the driver's door or window was not fully closed.
I'm worried. I believe it is the pano roof & can't imagine how to correct it.
I can’t believe it is anything more than a rubber weatherstrip or some such seal. The basic body of the FL car has not been changed at all. I believe that once your find the culprit seal and it is replaced, you’ll be fine. PLEASE keep us informed as to your progress and, hopefully your speedy resolution of this annoying problem.
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I can’t believe it is anything more than a rubber weatherstrip or some such seal. The basic body of the FL car has not been changed at all. I believe that once your find the culprit seal and it is replaced, you’ll be fine. PLEASE keep us informed as to your progress and, hopefully your speedy resolution of this annoying problem.
The new guy on the assembly line had too much German beer and has a problem.
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The new guy on the assembly line had too much German beer and has a problem.
And that’s because the new guy on the assembly isn’t German.
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I can’t believe it is anything more than a rubber weatherstrip or some such seal. The basic body of the FL car has not been changed at all. I believe that once your find the culprit seal and it is replaced, you’ll be fine. PLEASE keep us informed as to your progress and, hopefully your speedy resolution of this annoying problem.
i will definitely update on this situation. I need it to get resolved. It’s ruining my enjoyment of the car. Certainly a trivial problem vs the never ending cascade of truly serious problems that are coming at alll of us all the time. Thanks to the many thoughtful contributors on this topic.
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i will definitely update on this situation. I need it to get resolved. It’s ruining my enjoyment of the car. Certainly a trivial problem vs the never ending cascade of truly serious problems that are coming at alll of us all the time. Thanks to the many thoughtful contributors on this topic.
As I'm searching the web looking for more info, I came across this just now...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/m...orts-pictures/
seems there are other issues here as well...
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That article is almost 3 years old. Wonder if MB did anything to alleviate the problem?
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That article is almost 3 years old. Wonder if MB did anything to alleviate the problem?
Well, the one glimmer of hope out there, is that MB in Germany, and possibly in other markets—but not in the U.S.—is, for the first time since the W222 was launched, offering the long wheelbase model with the frigging Panorama Roof as optional. It had been standard equipment prior to MY18. I just don’t like the glass roof, because I don’t like the way it completely changes the look of lighter colored cars. However, I also don’t like the idea of a mass of glass sitting over my head. The fact that one of these things explodes every so often, for no apparent reason, isn’t comforting. They also creak, squeak and I virtually never use it. MB and other makers just NEED to make the glass roof OPTIONAL! Is that too much to ask?

Maybe when the S500 I6 model comes to the U.S., they will offer it without the Pano Roof, or maybe by MY19, they will make it optional across the entire line. One can only hope.

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Stream, there will likely be no S500 i6 coming to the US anytime soon.
Expect the S450 to turn into the i6 model for MY19; that’s it.
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As I'm searching the web looking for more info, I came across this just now...

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/m...orts-pictures/
seems there are other issues here as well...
Panorama roofs are technically sound and not noisier than steel roofs or moon roofs.
Strangely, our E63 is quieter than our prior S550 in terms of exterior noise or rattles. It feels extremely tight but has an optional acoustic package (some or much of which is part of the standard S).
Other E63 owners complain that it is too quiet as they like to hear more exchaust sound and the car is indeed the loudest sedan money can buy (from the outside).

As stated before I am not aware of any changes made to be panorama roof this 2014. Besides the optional Magic Sky, that is...

i am curious what your research will find. There may still be some manufacturing related changes, such as a part revision or change of vendor that will be extremely difficult to learn of unless it becomes part of a service bulletin.

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Strangely, our E63 is quieter than our prior S550 in terms of exterior noise or rattles. It feels extremely tight but has an optional acoustic package (some or much of which is part of the standard S).
Other E63 owners complain that it is too quiet
Interesting, I hadn't realized this was available and in the past hadn't really looked into AMG in the past in part because I value quiet. Perhaps there will be an E53 or CLS53 in my future.

P.S. Streamliner, those 2 cars are announced ways of getting the higher-performance, mild-hybrid I6 in MY19 in the U.S.

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