Hey Ben........
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Hey Ben and Brad.......
Check out your friend Mark Cumming (or friend of Evosport) think about how good is ITG filter. Btw, C32 car he was talking about properly is Vadim's C32.
http://benzsport.com/forums/showthre...threadid=16647
So i don't understand why you linked us to two pages of info about how good this filter is when the actual dyno result is "LOST of HP" !!! What your points?
I Tried The ITG filters and The Car LOST HP on the Dyno..
So I Dont Use the ITG Filters...Pay Extra $$$ For a Loss In HP? Nah...
also tried it on a C32.....Lost Hp on the Dyno
So I Dont Use the ITG Filters...Pay Extra $$$ For a Loss In HP? Nah...
also tried it on a C32.....Lost Hp on the Dyno
http://benzsport.com/forums/showthre...threadid=16647
So i don't understand why you linked us to two pages of info about how good this filter is when the actual dyno result is "LOST of HP" !!! What your points?
Last edited by linh; Nov 15, 2002 at 12:36 AM.
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Linh,
Sometimes I wonder if you even read people's responses to you. I specifically said in the last thread where you tried to prove that I am trying to push one filter over another that I have never sold an ITG filter for the Mercedes because they are currently made too thick, and thus lose power. Here, maybe this helps:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=22120
Linh:
COME ON GUYS !!!! Listen to Ben, he only sell the BEST...lol...lol...lol. K&N has been around for yearssssss and i used it in all my BMW with no problem. Now come along ITG filter that no one know anything about and claim to be better then K&N. A claimed of better products over other products is no longer considered a good sale pitch buddy!!!
Mach430:
Buellwinkle,
Vadim and I both have stated that the ITG filters were designed too thick for the Mercedes, thus resulting in no HP gains in any of our testing so far. I did not dispute that Safet would gain HP with the K&N filters, in fact I wrote he would.
Linh,
It would be a perfect sales pitch, only to this date I have not tried to sell a single ITG filter for the Mercedes.
So tell me Linh, why do you find it necessary to start a new thread in order to repeat the same exact things from a thread with a last post the same day? Even further, we all understand that it is your goal on MBWorld to harass and attempt to prove me wrong at every chance you get. It's great that you are willing to sacrifice your dignity in hopes of being correct, but wouldn't it be beneficial to you to read my posts before stating your "facts" ? Give it a rest. Let me clarify this one last time for you:
I WILL NOT SELL AN ITG AIR-FILTER FOR THE MERCEDES UNTIL THEY ARE MADE IN THE PROPER FASHION THAT THEY GAIN HP.
Hope this is clear enough,
Ben
Sometimes I wonder if you even read people's responses to you. I specifically said in the last thread where you tried to prove that I am trying to push one filter over another that I have never sold an ITG filter for the Mercedes because they are currently made too thick, and thus lose power. Here, maybe this helps:
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...threadid=22120
Linh:
COME ON GUYS !!!! Listen to Ben, he only sell the BEST...lol...lol...lol. K&N has been around for yearssssss and i used it in all my BMW with no problem. Now come along ITG filter that no one know anything about and claim to be better then K&N. A claimed of better products over other products is no longer considered a good sale pitch buddy!!!
Mach430:
Buellwinkle,
Vadim and I both have stated that the ITG filters were designed too thick for the Mercedes, thus resulting in no HP gains in any of our testing so far. I did not dispute that Safet would gain HP with the K&N filters, in fact I wrote he would.
Linh,
It would be a perfect sales pitch, only to this date I have not tried to sell a single ITG filter for the Mercedes.
So tell me Linh, why do you find it necessary to start a new thread in order to repeat the same exact things from a thread with a last post the same day? Even further, we all understand that it is your goal on MBWorld to harass and attempt to prove me wrong at every chance you get. It's great that you are willing to sacrifice your dignity in hopes of being correct, but wouldn't it be beneficial to you to read my posts before stating your "facts" ? Give it a rest. Let me clarify this one last time for you:
I WILL NOT SELL AN ITG AIR-FILTER FOR THE MERCEDES UNTIL THEY ARE MADE IN THE PROPER FASHION THAT THEY GAIN HP.
Hope this is clear enough,
Ben
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Re: Hey Ben and Brad.......
Originally posted by linh
So i don't understand why you linked us to two pages of info about how good this filter is when the actual dyno result is "LOST of HP" !!! What your points?
So i don't understand why you linked us to two pages of info about how good this filter is when the actual dyno result is "LOST of HP" !!! What your points?
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It just funny that i almost bought the IGT filter from you awhile back because you claim that it was way better then K&N before any dyno test was done on it. And i find out, not only NO gain from ITG filter that you said but LOST hp that you didn't mention about. Just say no gain sound a little better i guess....lol.
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Linh, I'm considering forming a charitable foundation for you just so we can raise some money and get you a car you are happy with... and a major chill pill... geez, you are really losing it.
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Linh, I'm considering forming a charitable foundation for you just so we can raise some money and get you a car you are happy with... and a major chill pill... geez, you are really losing it.
Linh, I'm considering forming a charitable foundation for you just so we can raise some money and get you a car you are happy with... and a major chill pill... geez, you are really losing it.
How about a YUGO sport?
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Originally posted by linh
It just funny that i almost bought the IGT filter from you awhile back because you claim that it was way better then K&N before any dyno test was done on it. And i find out, not only NO gain from ITG filter that you said but LOST hp that you didn't mention about. Just say no gain sound a little better i guess....lol.
It just funny that i almost bought the IGT filter from you awhile back because you claim that it was way better then K&N before any dyno test was done on it. And i find out, not only NO gain from ITG filter that you said but LOST hp that you didn't mention about. Just say no gain sound a little better i guess....lol.
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Originally posted by Sleestack
Linh, I'm considering forming a charitable foundation for you just so we can raise some money and get you a car you are happy with... and a major chill pill... geez, you are really losing it.
Linh, I'm considering forming a charitable foundation for you just so we can raise some money and get you a car you are happy with... and a major chill pill... geez, you are really losing it.
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Hey, that's a great idea. Please send it to Linh 123 P.O BOX CA 91940, thanks. Iwill definitely invest that money in Kleemann S/C. Come on guys... it just a little fun.
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Originally posted by Mach430
It's even funnier that I have never sold an ITG filter for the Mercedes, and cancelled all pre-orders. We tested some on our demo cars and Mark Cummins car, but never released a single piece of foam to a Mercedes customer. In fact, I have several coupe owners who call each month asking if ITG has fixed their filters, and whether we have them yet.
It's even funnier that I have never sold an ITG filter for the Mercedes, and cancelled all pre-orders. We tested some on our demo cars and Mark Cummins car, but never released a single piece of foam to a Mercedes customer. In fact, I have several coupe owners who call each month asking if ITG has fixed their filters, and whether we have them yet.
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Why don;t you look at WRC or ANY of the european touring car series or SPEED WC and see what filters are used in the BMW's and MB's. Let me give you a hint - it AINT K&N. ITG and Pipercross are the most common. Then look at F1 - anyone use K&N??? Nope, they do use ITG though, same with F2000, Formula Renault, etc.
Does that mean we should all use ITG filter? Do you think you can get your friend, Mark Cumming to install the ITG filter in his car again and use it for a year if i pay for it? lol...lol..
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OMG Linh. Seriously, take the time and read the whole thread. Do you remember what even started the debate? It was about filtration and the amount of dust microns that could pass through various filters. I even wrote in bold in this thread that they are not made properly and we will not sell them for the Mercedes.
It's your choice to do whatever you wish with the information. We post it in attempt to help users of the board (which at times leads to sales-- that's completely out in the open, as anyone can tell that I work for Evosport by looking at my signature). But come on! Do you really have to constantly spam the forum with worthless debates that arise from your inabilities to realize that they have already been clearly answered in threads posted less than a day before? How many times do I have to write in bold that:
we do not sell ITG filters for the Mercedes because there are no gains to be had (as of yet). They do filter better than cotton-based filters (as proven in independent tests), however not better than stock, therefore there is no advantage to using an ITG filter over stock.
If this is not clear enough, than I don't know to tell you. I'm sure you have better things to do with your time than litter MBWorld with useless arguments.
It's your choice to do whatever you wish with the information. We post it in attempt to help users of the board (which at times leads to sales-- that's completely out in the open, as anyone can tell that I work for Evosport by looking at my signature). But come on! Do you really have to constantly spam the forum with worthless debates that arise from your inabilities to realize that they have already been clearly answered in threads posted less than a day before? How many times do I have to write in bold that:
we do not sell ITG filters for the Mercedes because there are no gains to be had (as of yet). They do filter better than cotton-based filters (as proven in independent tests), however not better than stock, therefore there is no advantage to using an ITG filter over stock.
If this is not clear enough, than I don't know to tell you. I'm sure you have better things to do with your time than litter MBWorld with useless arguments.
