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Old 01-30-2003, 02:19 PM
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Bore out 4.3L to 5.5L

Hi all:

I was wondering if anyone know of a shop in the west coast capable of boring out my engine from 4.3L to 5.5L? I know Brabus does it, but does anyone else?


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Evosport is currently working on making my 4.3 liter into a 6.2 liter. Here is a picture of the block:
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Interesting! How long of a process does this work take? Also, what kinda $$ tag am I looking at? I was thinking about doing the 5.5L with the Kleemann s/c...heh heh heh. I know it will cost alot, but I figured I'd see how much the preliminary work would cost. Will they remap your ECU? What about the tranny?

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Oh yeah, what kinda MKB mods do you currently have?
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All German tuners, throw the 4,3 block and cylinderheads out,
when they build 5,8 - 6,1 engines out of a 430.
You can check all pricelists, it's allways more expensive to bore up
a 430 than the 5,0 or 5,5, the 2 last share the same block and bore.

Do you still use the 4,3 heads and block ?????.

DLS

If I where you, I would go for the compressor at the 4,3 L engine.
It will give you a very fast car and there will never be a problem with it.

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I'm pretty sure sleestack has already done the compressor thing.

Apparently that wasn't enough!
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Hey Lucas, any photo's of your beasts?
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Lucas:

Yeah, that's what everyone tells me to do. Actually, I want to have my engine bored to 5.5 so that I can s/c that engine. Just a thought, no definitive plans yet.

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I am pretty sure the 4,3 K can frighten most people, some want's
more, but there is a fine line between an everyday car and a Sunday racer.
If you want to go the 5,5 way, then it's stupid to bore up the old engine, why not buy a used engine from a 55 with a damage.
Then the engine swap can be done in a day or 2 and you have the real thing, if somebody can do the electronic.

SL 55 AMG

No pictures yet, both cars are in the middle of mods.
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Lucas, Iam taking delivery of the new 04 E55, do you have any suggestions for modifications yet?
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Do you have hair on your chest or are you only looking for light mods.

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Iam working late and I really needed that laugh, actually I do have alot of hair on my chest, but the women seem to like it. I want to do some "light" mods with respect to bolt on. If I wanted to go all out, I would keep my current 2000 E55 and "Kleemanize" it. What do you suggest for the new motor since you have on in your SL?
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I think he's hinting to the "hairiest" upgrade of them all... 640HP from Kleemann.
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I believe that upgrade includes an all new blower, with respect to money and the car that I currently own, that would be counter cost productive to take off an amg blower and replace it with a kleemann, I would keep the current car if I wanted to do that.
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Originally posted by Lucas
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All German tuners, throw the 4,3 block and cylinderheads out,
when they build 5,8 - 6,1 engines out of a 430.
You can check all pricelists, it's allways more expensive to bore up
a 430 than the 5,0 or 5,5, the 2 last share the same block and bore.

Do you still use the 4,3 heads and block ?????.

DLS

If I where you, I would go for the compressor at the 4,3 L engine.
It will give you a very fast car and there will never be a problem with it.
a) There are different views when it comes to starting with a 4.3 v. 5.5. Vadim researched this thoroughly and I trust the approach he is taking.

b) Almost every part (including heads, valves, cranks, etc.) has been completely custom made after extensive blueprinting. This project is very comprehensive and is not some ill-planned, underfunded tuning project.

c) I agree that boring a 4.3 to a 5.5 is not the way DLS should go. Either SC the existing 4.3 or just get the 55 and SC that. I ahd my 430 running about 490 hp and 470 lb/ft torque with the combination of the MKB kit and the Kleemann SC.

d) For the person who asked, I had the MKB 55 Hypertune Kit and 3.07 differential software installed.

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Hey thanks guys. You have shed more light into my little brain and now I am seeing things alittle differently.

Regards,
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An uninformed observation and question. The cylinder walls on Sleestacks bored out block look thin. Any potential cooling problems?
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Remember there are going to be sleeves:
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Hey DLS...how're your track skills? With plans like those, a driver upgrade would be highly recomended. Kleemannized monsters are not to be taken lightly!

Sleestack: The whole project just plain amazes me...any other teaser shots?
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Larry:

I think I am a decent driver, never tested on a track. I do agree with you that a driver upgrade would be necessary. I feel like I can control my car fairly good right now, but if I do the upgrades I might be outta my league.

Good looking out.

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Originally posted by Larry Sonsini

Sleestack: The whole project just plain amazes me...any other teaser shots?
Nothing exciting but:
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Nothing exciting eh? ha, that's my fav installed part so far! Fit and finish are flawless, and I love the fact that you can't even see it from the outside.
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Be careful once the Benzilla gets out of the cage! Or you can hurt drivers out there on the fwy!
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Originally posted by Sleestack
Evosport is currently working on making my 4.3 liter into a 6.2 liter. Here is a picture of the block:
I was confused why 6.2 at first, not a well known spec.
then I read that in "Only Mercedes", MKB 6.2 upgrade kits
from there,plus Kleemann S/C
You may call the CLK-GTR No.2 ???

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