Kain

Who, in your opinion, is the best Mercedes-Benz tuner? Do they all do different upgrades or are they all comparable?

Timster

I don't think any one of them is the best at everything.
Be a little more specific, are you talking ECU programming,
Add on parts, interior, Performance brakes, suspension, engine mod's Superchargers, turbos, from the ground up motors?
The good's come to mind,
Kleemann
Renntech
Brabus
EVOsport
Just to name a few!

SL500 AMG

I'm still looking for ECU chip, i see all kinds of prices out there from 250.00 to over 1k which is rediculous for a small HP increase, but open to any suggestions. Thanks...

Sleestack

I wouldn't expect any huge hp gains from chipping on a naturally aspirated engine.

SL500 AMG

well I know the minimum is about 10-15 and sometimes more, if I get about 12hp+ I'll be happy... on some models they get over 20hp but I highly doubt, I'll get that...

Timster

Don't believe everything you read!
If they say you'll get 20HP you'll probably see about half of that.
The only way to really tell is to get a base line Dyno done. Then install the part, then re-dyno it after the car gets a few miles on it.
Best of luck to ya!

Buellwinkle

Kain, I thought you wanted a Beemer. The best MB tuner is AMG of course. Brabus would be best aftermarket tuner because they have MB's blessing and warranty coverage. Save your money and just get the c32 or M3, already tuned.

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Sleestack

You can certainly special order an AMG tuned car, however, they don't exactly promote themselves a aftermarket tuners anymore. Brabus might have nice warranty coverage but they aren't exactly on the cutting edge of tuning. They primarily do big block conversions, however they aren't known for pumping out the sickest cars. After all if they were really focused on maximum performance, they wouldn't be letting their wheels weigh 33 lbs a pop. I'm not saying they don't do great work, but IMO they are pretty conservative. C32 and M3 are nice cars, but they have alot of room for improvement which will get you looking for tuners anyway.

There are quite a few tuning options out there. It all depends how power hungry you are. I'm not sure what's available out there in Dubai.

speedybenz

From what I've read and see I would say Evosport is trying very hard to develop thier own products and are doing the correct testing of parts prior to sale.

I give them the nod cause they make thier own stuff, for the most part. And there prices are not totally out in left field, aka: Renntech.

Jeff

nukblazi

This is a completely subjective question.

I particularly value both Evosport and Kleemann's participation on this board, and contributions as tuners.

Both seem to usually have the options the others don't, instead of just carbon copies of carbon copies.

Timster

LOL!

sajecw

BTW, I know of an HPS CLK55 that runs hard. It may not be as fast as a Kleeman car, but it runs strongs at less than half the price.

Do not be fooled by one person that had this system and did not want it for whatever reason.

And this car was running strong on a 95 degree day, so don't believe the BS about it running to hot.

My 2 cents.

hllatif

MKB. See them At www.mkb-power.de

This company started by two Ex-Senior Tech. from AMG and its based near stuttgart. These guys know their stuff.

SiLvaC32

MKB should be the shiet!...... but their price is also up there! just something to remember.

Shine

Just order our extra power car & don't touch anything else.
Well, I rate it as a dealer rather than a tuner in some ways.

The tuner should be interactive with customers, willing to help
& advice them
Go for a try , No ! there's side effect....., Put some gauges if you
concern about ....
Evosport & Kleemann are doing really well in this forum, they're
Tuners.

BenzoAMGpower

I say RENNTech is the best tuner due to the amount of R&D that goes into their work. Their work does not void any Factory Mercedes Benz warantee so that says a lot. Hartmut used to work for AMG, remember. RENNTech keeps your motor reliable however far they tune it!!

nukblazi

Last I looked into this, your statement is not true.

There are RENNtech friendly dealers but currently Brabus is the only tuner that has a blanket agreement. Other's including KLEEMANN were said to be attempting to gain the same deal.


Regards...

Lynn

Brabus parts won't void the warranty only if they are installed by Brabus.

Sleestack

There are several reputable tuners out there, but my money went to those who I believe in... Evosport and Kleemann.

Mach430

Let's clarify the warranty concerns.

1. If you have ANY aftermarket product installed on the car that DOES cause a problem, then that particular product is not covered under the factory MB warranty. It is then up to the company and the consumer to cover the costs of repairs.

2. If you have an aftermarket product installed on the car and have a problem with the car that is not caused by the product in question, than it is illegal for warranty claims to be denied.

Timster

Yeap thats basically what the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
(15 U.S.C. 2302 (C)) states.

sajecw

Let's state a for example.

I have a supercharger on my CLK and the transmission blows up.

Can the dealer tell me the entire drivetrain is not covered?

What about the fuel injection system failing?

This issue is one of the most interpretive I have ever seen.

My dealer said the service manager would "blacklist" the car if I brought it in with a supercharger. He stated this off the record.

dtkw

Bottom line I think if you had a company that modified your car, the company would warrantee their works. To me, that would be only if I live in the same city as the tuner. Otherwise, it would be a hassle to correct a problem if it wasn't done right or got lossened after a number of miles. Unless the tuner would be willing to come to my place and correct the problems.

Timster

The Dealer would have to prove that the Transmission failure was caused by the Super Charger. That would be hard to prove. This is when arbitration comes in.
Also this Black List everyone talks about is folklore. All the dealer can do is make a note in your vehicle record that says what he found. Luckily other people have spent the time and money clarifying these issues.

But the dealers are now pulling other tricks. (If you are trading your car in)
If the car does not have the recommended tires sizes (Stated on the sticker on the door sill or other location (Even if you have only gone to a higher speed rating) they will not buy your car. I have also found out if you have changed the exhaust the dealers will ding you for not having factory equipment. So expect a much lower price if you have any aftermarket performance items on your car. This is what happened to me in California.
Other states may vary.
Best of luck you,
Tim