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Old 12-20-2003, 02:01 AM
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
ML intake kills car?!?

I've had aftermarket air intake sytems... chrome piping with cone filter (k&n style)on alot of the cars i have owned...including my ml. My friend did pretty much the same set up on his ml320... chrome piping with a 90 degree angle... hes had it for about 6months...it tripped his check engine light but still ran strong. but the other day he called me to pick him up cause his truck died on the road. he said it progressively began to lose power to the point where it is extremely underpowered. after cooling down it runs okay until it gets hot again. he pulled the codes one of them was that it was pulling to much air at the sensor. he swears its the intake, but i really dont think so...ive had it on my ml for well over a year. he called k&n and the said as long as he didnt touch the senosr it is fine. he called a bunch of high end places and they all said the same thing that an intake sytem wouldnt mess up the car. any ideas?
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...............i think is mass airflow sensor is messed up due to oil deposits from the K@N filters. It costs a litlle less than $500 to replace including labor. Consider not using K@N filters.

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Same thing happened to me. The MAS fails over time. The dealer will tell you it doesn't, but it does get progressively worse.
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
sajecw...so you dont think it was the intake... just natural wear and tear?
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.............no, it is not the intake, no it is not natural wear and tear it. It is the K@N filter killing your MAF sensor. You choose to believe it or not.

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No, this happened to me 3 times. I am guessing cleaning the MAS with an electronics component cleaner every once in a while couldn't hurt.
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so is there a performance air filter that replace the k&n .
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
I have the k&n with no problems.
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I have the k&n with no problems.

........you do not YET, have a problem. This is not new discovery. Oily air filters such as K@N DO kill your MAF sensor.

LINK ABOUT MAF

ANOTHER LINK ABOUT MAF

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............if you need more, let me know

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people overoils those k&n-style filters. thats why maf goes bad. I have over 200thousand miles experience WITHOUT problems. DO NOT OVEROIL THE FILTER WHEN CLEANING!!
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a car that can't do the throttle reset.
my friends ml had the filter brand new, never reoiled. he swears that the intakes the problem... but im still not convinced. plus youre talking about a 203 right? i think this problem might be 163 specific?
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...........ok. You'll be back.

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...........after you and your friend have spent a lot of dead presidents.

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Yep, keep the oil to a min. I use a piece of old panty hose as a prefilter. Keeps the sand etc. from laying in the pleats. I ruined a 3 day old MAF with too much filter oil never have to do that again. $$ makes me remember, funny how that works. I like the filtration of the stock filter setup, but I have no choice on the C43, at least not w/o spending more money than it's worth. Don't suck water threw them, MAF's don't like that either. Damm little part makes such a difference in the way mine run. I'm going to data log mine every now and then to see how time takes it's toll. Lbs/Min at similar operation conditions and fuel trims can say a lot.

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