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Old 07-14-2004, 11:12 AM
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Performance Chip....no performance

Just got my car back with the performance chip. Now, I have heard that it takes some time for it to adjust to the car and vise-versa...but it seems to me to be running worse

Is it true that I need to give it a week and a 100 miles?
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What brand chip did you get and for what car?
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Oooops

Power Chip for an '02 CLK 430
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I used Powerchip on my 01 S500, and yes you need to put 100 miles on it..

Originally Posted by CLKVegas
Just got my car back with the performance chip. Now, I have heard that it takes some time for it to adjust to the car and vise-versa...but it seems to me to be running worse

Is it true that I need to give it a week and a 100 miles?

Just a thought, are you using the correct fuel, 91 octane or better?


I definitely noticed (butt dyno) increase in throttle response and top end improvement...
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Only 91 octane ever goes into her

Gas is not the issue. THx for the reassurance. Everyone else experienced the same thing? Will I just start the car one morning and gee! or what?
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...............I am glad someone is being objective about chips. My opinion is that chips on a normally aspirated Mb does nothing. As soon as I re-assure myself that I am correct about this, I see a post from someone claiming all kinds of performance gains in "the seat of his pants" with chip tunning. I am beging to think that there is some type of Chip Psychosis that grips people when they chip their MB. People make themselves believe that there is really a performance gain when there is none. I don't think that people are being dishionest...........I think they truly believe it in their mind or deep in "seat of their pants." This of course is great for the vendors because they can sell more chips.

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Ted...

I have a Dinan chip in my 01 740il and I did notice a large difference. The car's response into acceleration was much quicker. Now, big HP gains ???? But, that is what I was looking for in the 430....ie no gas to torque lags.

Rest assured....that at $800 +, if I don't clearly feel it, the chip is going back!
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Your car should be faster. All that money out of your will your car lighter, thus faster

I would expect very little if any gains on a naturally aspirated MB. But I am surprised you are not experiencing better throttle response.
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The car wont register for a smog test either? "Strange things are a'foot at the Circle K."
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What do you mean the car won't register for a smog test? Do you mean that information is missing from the OBD2 storage, or that you are running too clean to register on the tail pipe test?
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the computer did not register for the smog machine
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I had my 1999, C43 Powechipped and using my Nology Dyno for runs before and after showed no gains and a loss of Hp and Torque at 3500-4000rpm.

I had Powerchip remove the chip at the end of the grace period.

When questioned on this Powerchip said there chip do not make Hp just improve drivability. Well my C43 had great drivability, I wanted the advertized 20Hp gain as shown on their Website. I was pretty pissed

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Originally Posted by speedybenz
I had my 1999, C43 Powechipped and using my Nology Dyno for runs before and after showed no gains and a loss of Hp and Torque at 3500-4000rpm.

I had Powerchip remove the chip at the end of the grace period.

When questioned on this Powerchip said there chip do not make Hp just improve drivability. Well my C43 had great drivability, I wanted the advertized 20Hp gain as shown on their Website. I was pretty pissed

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Wow. Looks like I won't be getting the Powerchip for my w203 then.
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I would like to get it on a dyno to see what was done, especially at this price point!

Anyone know about the delayed effectiveness?

Anyone know were I can run it in Vegas?
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CLKVegas,

I spoke with Powerchip regarding your concern, and they suggest that you contact them directly, so that they can help you out while you are still in your trial period. Feel free to contact Travis directly @ 310.917.1075.

Regards,

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Ben....thanks a ton for the idea to contact Travis. We spoke, he was great. We are going to sit down with the car and get it all worked out.

I will post you guys with the plan, issues and results.
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Originally Posted by CLKVegas
Gas is not the issue.
Why are you so sure gas is not the issue? Are you running a higher grade now than before the chip? In the heat of Las Vegas you will need 93 octane, otherwise the ECU will pull back timing due too detonation and give no gains over stock.
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Originally Posted by Zeppelin
Why are you so sure gas is not the issue? Are you running a higher grade now than before the chip? In the heat of Las Vegas you will need 93 octane, otherwise the ECU will pull back timing due too detonation and give no gains over stock.
Okey....

The chip was programed for 91....is your quote still applicable?
Where can I find 93?
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so the update....version #1

So the update....version #1

The car passed smog. I believe, along with everyone I spoke with, it was simply the ECU disconnet needing to reset etc., for the smog machine to see it.

I have also noticed an increase in torque and pick-up in the car...it is more punchy once it gets rolling. I am happy with that portion of the chip's effect.

What I have not really noticed is the "low end" throttel response increase...maybe I am just expecting too much. (you mean the car cannot pull full torque at 1500 rpm????? )

My goal this week is to have powerchip remove the program (drive her) and re-install (drive her again) in the same morning... giving me immediate results.

I have not had a chance to see it her limiter is off. What is it set at anyway...127 mph??? I will check that this weekend on my way from Vegas to LA.

Powerchip is great to work with; period.
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Originally Posted by CLKVegas
I have not had a chance to see it her limiter is off. What is it set at anyway...127 mph??? I will check that this weekend on my way from Vegas to LA.
I doubt it's 127... I'm pretty sure I've hit at least 1 or 2 mph faster than that on my 320... not sure exactly how much though... I wasn't looking at anything but the road at the time, and it was only a quick (millisecond) glance at the speedo that told me how stupidly fast I was driving.
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I had my ECU worked on to remove the speed limiter and remap the air/fuel. The car now has 540hp/550ft lb torque.

I do notice that it is quicker....but it was the limiter that I wanted removed...and it worked! I have been out in the desert and seen just over 200 indicated on the SL55
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Thumbs up Update #2

Just spent a Sat. with the boys at powerchip. (they are normally closed, but three guys came in to give my car the care she deserves! ) They took my car for a little ride and made a few tweeks based upon my issues. The hole in the low end power band is now gone.

I did not lose any of the higher RPM pull either. I am quite happy.

They told me that the programing for my car was a unique due to the other upgrades I had in her.....I doubt you will get that attention to detail from other chip co.'s. Powerchip gets a high recomendation from me!

The only thing that I did not test was the removal of the speed limiter....I seem to have a camber issue
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Originally Posted by CLKVegas
Just spent a Sat. with the boys at powerchip. (they are normally closed, but three guys came in to give my car the care she deserves! ) They took my car for a little ride and made a few tweeks based upon my issues. The hole in the low end power band is now gone.

I did not lose any of the higher RPM pull either. I am quite happy.

They told me that the programing for my car was a unique due to the other upgrades I had in her.....I doubt you will get that attention to detail from other chip co.'s. Powerchip gets a high recomendation from me!

The only thing that I did not test was the removal of the speed limiter....I seem to have a camber issue
Did you ever get to dyno the results?

Also, is it true that if you have other "performance" upgrades like exhaust, K&N filters, the ECU upgrade won't work properly?
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You should tell the company which you choose to go with what mods you have on your car and they should adjust the ECU to accomodate (try to get the most performance out of it).
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That is the kind of attention the are known for. My otherwise stock CLK has the 91 octane Powerchip and it really woke up the midrange like it did on my E55.

BTW, I think the stock North American speed limit is 225Kph or about 135Mph for non AMG cars.


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