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Old 08-27-2016, 01:19 PM
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I'll check again, there are three types, apparently. The one I saw selling all of them wanted $170 for them.
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Old 08-30-2016, 09:30 PM
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Well, it got stuck in park yesterday. After some encouragement with a mallet, I got it out of park and disassembled. The selector lever wasn't completely broken but it had a big crack in it allowing it to bend and preventing it from moving enough to disengage the interlock. I ordered the part and am waiting for it so I can get it back together.
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:11 PM
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After getting everything reassembled and back to being nice and pretty, it no longer feels at all hesitant to get out of park. Not hesitant enough, in fact. Now the interlock holding it in park no longer functions at all, it goes in and out of park freely, with no regard to whether or not the brake is being pressed. I have a couple theories, but honestly I'm not terribly sure for this one. New spring not strong enough? I had to do a little drilling and machining on the part to make it work, maybe the hinge point is providing too much resistance? The other lever needs to be lubed up? I don't know, at this point.
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Old 09-07-2016, 10:23 PM
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I would just leave the interlock out

As long as you don't have kids who would play with the gearshift and sit unattended in the car , it's no different than old cars which used to allow the gearshift to be moved even when parked with the keys out

It's just a nanny feature to protect people from their own inattentiveness
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Old 09-08-2016, 05:49 AM
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It seems that shifting it when it's not running doesn't actually change gear anyway. It's only a concern when the car is on. Even so, if I get bored, I might disassemble it to see if I can fix it.
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Just wanted to say THANKS for the posters in the first few pages of this thread, especially the guy who did the video. Just removed my failing plastic clip, took about 2 hrs. I didn't get stranded but I could tell I would have very soon ... clip was still in one piece but hanging on by a thread.

Note to anyone who comes here for this issue ... read the first few pages, plenty of info about the various options you have.
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All programming?

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If anyone in the NY-NJ-PA-CT area needs their ESM coded via STAR DIAG I can do a mobile service or you can bring the car to me.
Does this include key programming?
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Old 10-13-2017, 11:11 AM
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Wanted to bring this thread back, as I was wondering if anyone in SoCal has a shop they could recommend who has done this for them, or if there is a MBWorld member who would be help me tackle this job on my W220. Please PM if interested
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Old 06-20-2018, 05:52 PM
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My 2001 S500 got stuck in park, so I looked at this forum for suggestions as I always do. There were no answers other than call roadside assistance and let them hammer the shifter out of park and take it to the dealer to have it repaired. The price tag was high and my curiousity got the best of me. As it always does, so I again looked at my WIS program for help in fixing the problem. There was no real help other than how to remove the shifter box.
So...I removed the shifter box. This entailed removing the center console to get to the shifter box. I had to also unattach the linkage under the car to get the shifter box out of the car.
Once out, I proceeded to unassemble the shifter box.
What I discover was amazing. There is a small plastic part ( I estimate about 10 cents in quantity) that is responsible for allowing the shifter to be taken out of park. It is activated by a solenoid that pushes the plastic part to allow the shifter to come out of park. Most of the parts in the box were metal. This particular part is plastic and very frail. Obviously a victum of very poor engineering. It is easy to see that this part will become stressed over time and fail.
My concern is that we are all good MBZ owners and take our cars to the dealer for repair most of the time. This is certainly not a DIY normal job, but my curiousity got the best of me.
The part can be replaced ( I think) although the pin that allows the part to move is pressed into the housing of the shifter box. I was not able to press it out, as space was very restrictive. The way it was engineered I suspect MBZ never intended to replace this part. In my estimation, this is certainly a candidate for a recall. Obviously when you take your car to MBZ for repair, they replace the whole box and never tell you actually what was wrong. I read that one person paid $1,300.00 for this repair. A little high for a 10 cent part that is a very poor excuse for this kind of use.
I know what you are thinking. Maybe the other shifter boxes had something else wrong with them. Could be true. However, in looking over the entire box, not much could go wrong. The design is very simple and very low tech. If you want more information post your concerns.
I am going to contact MBZ about this problem to see what their response is. Nobody should have to pay for this problem. It is definitly an MBZ problem. Not your normal wear and tear.
Oh BTW, I removed the remainder of the broken part so I could use the car while researching this problem. Everything works fine, the only thing is that you do not have to step on the brake to take the car out of park now. Operates like the old cars before steering and park lock outs.
Thank you so much for this post. I have an 05 S430 that is stuck in park and when I called Mercedes they told me $1400-$1500. I took it to a repair shop that worked on another car I had he told me about the little plastic piece that was causing this headache. He charged me $100 to fix. He also suggested that I could shop around for a used gear shift, but I am not sure if they will have to be programmed or not (if anyone knows let me know PLEASE).
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The shifter is a theft-control part, and would be very expensive to have replaced by itself. The most common way for replacement is to purchase a complete set of the theft-control parts from one vehicle and install all of them.

You can "fix" the stuck in park problem by simply removing the broken part, which means that the car can be moved out of park without pressing the brake. For a few dollars, you can buy a kit with a couple of metal parts that can be installed in the shifter to restore normal operation.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:40 AM
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So the consensus is just remove this stupid little plastic dingy thing?
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Not really. For safety sake replace with metal rebuild kit I would say.
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For over fifty years, there was no requirement to step on the brake pedal to move the transmission from PARK. Then, we had the famous "Unintended Acceleration", where a very few vehicles were accused of accelerating violently as soon as the shifter was moved to DRIVE or REVERSE, even though the drivers were "certain" that they were pressing firmly on the brake pedal, and the power of the run-away engine simply overpowered the brakes...

Now, Big Brother has decided that the best way to make really, really certain that the driver is actually pressing the brake pedal is to link the brake to the transmission shifter.

Your car, your choice. Replacing the link is safer, especially if you don't always, every time apply the parking brake firmly, just in case your child or your dog knocks the lever out of PARK.
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Old 06-21-2018, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wallyp View Post
For over fifty years, there was no requirement to step on the brake pedal to move the transmission from PARK. Then, we had the famous "Unintended Acceleration", where a very few vehicles were accused of accelerating violently as soon as the shifter was moved to DRIVE or REVERSE, even though the drivers were "certain" that they were pressing firmly on the brake pedal, and the power of the run-away engine simply overpowered the brakes...

Now, Big Brother has decided that the best way to make really, really certain that the driver is actually pressing the brake pedal is to link the brake to the transmission shifter.

Your car, your choice. Replacing the link is safer, especially if you don't always, every time apply the parking brake firmly, just in case your child or your dog knocks the lever out of PARK.
This is my opinion as well. I hate that stupid park interlock, however I do wish Mercedes had a button or something to move gear positions.
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