Mr. Xristo

For the love of pete.. Why doesn't someone post some REAL data to back up their claims?!?!

MercManiac

SL55AMG....

What is the real scoop on differential between S55 and S600?

Thanks....

Mr. Xristo

S600

Engine: Engine 5,786-cc V-12. SOHC, 36 valves.

Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 5.8 seconds

Curb Weight: 4,488 lb

Net Power: 362 hp @ 5,500 rpm

Net Torque: 391 lb-ft @ 4,250 rpm

Compression ratio: 10.0:1

Rear axle ratio: 2.82:1

Weight to HP Ratio: 12.40

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S55

Engine: AMG-built 5,439-cc V-8. SOHC, 24 valves.

Acceleration: 0-60 mph in 5.7 seconds

Curb Weight: 4,186 lb

Net Power: 355 hp @ 5,500 rpm

Net Torque: 391 lb-ft @ 3,150 - 4,500 rpm

Compression ratio: 10.5:1

Rear axle ratio: 2.82:1

Weight to HP Ratio: 11.79


They are the same vehicle minus the engine. When you order the S600 with the sports package you receive the AMG aprons, and the staggered 18" AMG monoblock wheels.

MercManiac

Thanks for confirming SL55AMG...This I knew....since I've owned a 2001 S600 since August of 2000 and my best friend has had a 2002 S55 AMG for over a year.

Andrew thinks that this has all changed with the 2003 S55 and S600. I have 2003 S600 on order and all written specs say it's just a engine difference (and I'll bet 600 is still faster 0-60 since it has stronger torque curve, but AMG engine is still the better "race" engine by design when you're on a road course)....of course 600 doesn't come with AMG body skirting unless you order sports package.

Do you have any way of confirming this.......

AndrewEclipse

http://www.mercedes-benz.com/amg/e/news/index.htm#


The AMG site discusses the AMG touch to this car in wheels, AMG steering wheel with AMG SPEEDSHIFT transmission, AMG contour sport seats, AMG sport exhaust system, AMG bodykit, AMG'S newly developed cross-drilled brake system (AMG insignia on caliper). The brakes are an 8 piston front caliper system and a 4 piston back caliper system. AMG Sports suspension is mention in the article too.



Now, is the S600 the same exact thing without any of the AMG badges??? Someone please find this out......im still researching it to ensure I give correct information.

Mr Janne

S55:
Stiffer, AMG-specific tuning of the spring struts.

AMG-SPEEDSHIFT transmission with buttons on the steering-wheel for gear-changing.

AMG high-performance braking system from the SL55.

AMG sports exhaust with two chromed twin tailpipes.

AMG instrument cluster with 320-km/h gauge.

Only the CL55 has the AMG Sport seats as standard but the seats in both models have an AMG-specific design and perforated upholstery, with AMG badges incorporated in the backrests.

These are some thing mentioned in my brochure, published 15.05.2002.

Mr Janne

One other difference is that the S600 is only available in long-version and weighs 2135 kg while the S55 in short-version is 1985 kg and in long-version 2005 kg.

AndrewEclipse

I love pete, so here is your data.


One man, one engine – AMG badge documents production process

The "one man, one engine" philosophy means that one engineer at the engine plant in Affalterbach takes responsibility for the entire assembly of each AMG high-performance engine – as evidenced by that mechanic's signature on a special engine badge, which, in the case of the AMG V8 supercharged engine, is located on the supercharger module.

AMG SPEEDSHIFT with Formula 1-style steering-wheel gearshift

In the three new AMG models with the V8 supercharged engine, the power is transmitted by a five-speed automatic transmission which incorporates the AMG SPEEDSHIFT function, adapting to both a sporty and a comfort-oriented driving style. In manual mode the gears can be changed at the touch of a button on the steering wheel as in a racing car. Further technological highlights include the optimum gear function and active engine-braking downshift, which, together with the mechanical lock-up of the torque converter from first gear, make for an extremely direct driving experience. The advantages of the AMG SPEEDSHIFT automatic transmission are rounded off by more spontaneous and up to 35 percent faster gear changes.
Motor racing expertise influences engine design

The technical highlights of the sophisticated AMG V8 supercharged engine include the mechanical supercharger, located between the cylinder banks, which places the 5.5-litre eight-cylinder engine under a maximum pressure of 0.9 bar. Integrated in the compact supercharger module is the charge-air cooler, which operates along the highly efficient lines of an air/water heat exchanger. Using AMG's wealth of experience in the field of motor racing, the interior of the engine has been given a totally new design: the crankcase, crankshaft and pistons have been reinforced, the cylinder heads and valve train have been optimised and a more powerful oil pump has been added.

AIRMATIC DC semi-active suspension with AMG-specific tuning

To ensure that the high engine output is delivered to the road effectively, the Mercedes-AMG engineers have redesigned the suspension and the braking system. In the E 55 AMG the progressive dynamic handling systems help set the sports Saloon apart from its current competitors. The air-sprung, semi-active AIRMATIC DC suspension with ADS II allows the driver to opt for a more comfortable or a very sporty ride. Damping and springing automatically adjust to the given situation in fractions of a second, and the required tuning can also be selected manually in three stages at the touch of a button. The spring struts, shock absorbers, torsion bars and the entire electronic suspension management have been specifically adapted to the high dynamic potential of the AMG model.

Experience gathered during over three decades in motorsport also served as a basis for the fully modified power transmission, with the steel rear axle and differential cooling, and for the braking system, with Sensotronic Brake Control, familiar from the SL 55 AMG: internally ventilated, perforated brake discs all-round, sized 360 x 36 millimetres at the front and 330 x 26 millimetres at the rear, ensure excellent deceleration of 10.8 m/s2 and practically no fading. Eight-piston fixed callipers at the front axle allow a brake pad surface which is almost twice as large as in the Mercedes-Benz E 500.

New AMG twin-spoke light-alloy wheels

Contact with the road is provided by size 245/40 ZR 18 (front) and 265/35 ZR 18 (rear) wide-base tyres, which are fitted on attractive AMG twin-spoke light-alloy wheels, eight inches wide at the front and nine inches wide at the rear. In addition to the AMG twin-spoke wheels, painted in sterling silver, striking side skirts from the AMG bodystyling package emphasise the elegant silhouette of the Saloon; the V8 KOMPRESSOR lettering on the front wings draws attention to the fact that this is the most powerful E-Class of all time. At the front the AMG front apron, with its large air intakes and clear-glass fog lamps, sets this exclusive sports Saloon apart from the rest, while a fitting finishing touch is provided at the rear by the AMG rear apron with integral, oval, chromed twin tailpipes, left and right.


Mercedes-Benz S 55 AMG and CL 55 AMG: powerful top-of-the-line models

Following the extensive model updates for the S-Class Saloon and the CL-Class Coupé, the S 55 AMG and CL 55 AMG also have a totally new character. Beneath the bonnet of both AMG high-performance vehicles beats the heart of a top athlete – the V8 supercharged engine, with its 5.5-litre displacement, 368-kW/500-hp output at 6100 rpm and 700-Newtonmetre torque between 2750 and 4000 rpm, familiar from the SL 55 AMG. In these prestigious and luxurious top models, the tremendous power ensures sports car-style dynamism: in the S 55 AMG and the CL 55 AMG the sprint from 0 to 100 km/h takes just 4.8 seconds, and both models take just 16,3 seconds to reach the 200 km/h mark. The electronically governed top speed for each is 250 km/h.

The S 55 AMG and CL 55 AMG demonstrate that high performance can also be environmentally compatible, firstly by complying with the EU4 exhaust gas limits, which are not due to come into force until 2005, and secondly by their low consumption levels of 13.2 litres per 100 kilometres (NEDC combined cycle).

AMG sports suspension with Active Body Control (ABC) as standard

Both V8 supercharged top models are fitted as standard with Active Body Control, which significantly reduces side tilt on bends as well as pitch and roll. The driver can also select between comfort-oriented or sporty characteristics at the touch of a button. Stiffer, AMG-specific tuning of the spring struts and the high-performance braking system with internally ventilated, perforated discs all round and eight-piston fixed callipers at the front axle do justice to the increased dynamic potential.

AMG bodystyling and 18-inch light-alloy wheels with mixed-size tires

The new V8 KOMPRESSOR models can be distinguished from the other S-Class and CL-Class models by the AMG bodystyling, which is fitted as standard. The front end is characterised by the new-design AMG front apron, with larger openings for the charge-air cooling. The side view features 18-inch AMG light-alloy wheels in the new twin-spoke design with mixed-size tyres, AMG side skirts and the V8 KOMPRESSOR lettering on the front wings. The AMG sports exhaust with two chromed twin tailpipes and the distinctive AMG rear apron – with a particularly sporty diffusor on the CL 55 AMG – lend a dynamic touch at the rear.

Full complement of nappa leather appointments in a choice of three colours

The appointments in the S 55 AMG and CL 55 AMG certainly live up to the high technical standards of the vehicles. The AMG instrument cluster with its 320-km/h gauge, an AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with gear-shift buttons and door sill panels with the AMG logo emphasize the AMG style. Luxurious flair is also added by the extensive fine wood trim and the nappa leather appointments, available in three colours. The CL 55 AMG has AMG sports seats in the front, offering optimum lateral support, while the S 55 AMG offers multicontour dynamic driving seats in the front. These ensure that the degree of lateral support provided adjusts automatically when cornering at speed. The seats in both models have an AMG-specific design and perforated upholstery, with AMG badges incorporated in the backrests.
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AndrewEclipse

Well....did you enjoy the reading yet?? Feedback guys........

mookie

AndrewEclipse thanks for the post, could u put it in magazine form so I can read it on the thrown?

AndrewEclipse

Hahahaha. Well I printed it out and read it when I was on the shi****. Try that. It makes the experience much better.

benznut

Does the S55 short-wheelbase have any more performance than the long version? I would rather take the CL before that one.

AndrewEclipse

MercManiac.........where are you at buddy???

MB AMG

Wow, you should look at the tach and speedo climb under full throttle in the S600!

Guest0001

why you bring back a 2 yr old thread?

Kar don

lol

Brian_I.

I didn't even realize this. I was wondering how it got so many replies in one day seeing as how slow this forum usually is.

MadC32

I drove a CL600 recently.. With Turbo Nr. 1 the torque already feels incredible, but then Turbo Nr.2 kicking in.. breaking necks!