Can a S500 be badged S55 if swaped with 55 motor??
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You're looking at it.. the Facelift Amg Sport package came with front and rear bumpers that have the little flair at the bottom that's a little different than the stock which is rounder at the bottom. Also where it meets the wheel well has a flair also and the side skirts as well. Without the package is straight side skirts and rounder rear bumper. Thats how it comes that year along with 18" AMG rims per my delivery sheet.
They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.
Here is a member with the same year car without the package..
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/245291-benz_addict-s-w220-thread.html
This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.
Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.
They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.
Here is a member with the same year car without the package..
https://mbworld.org/forums/s-class-w220/245291-benz_addict-s-w220-thread.html
This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.
Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.
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None to speak of..New "updated" Cats ( made a huge difference ),Acelerator module ( new ), Different Camshaft sensor (very noticeable performance difference). my "Fancy" airbox, And I did have me Dealer download some "New" software recently and since then my car freakin Screams!! I lost about 2 to 3 mpg average,(21/23 versus 23/26) but The shifting, Take-off, and intermediate power is great!!..
Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...
People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...
People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
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You're looking at it.. the Facelift Amg Sport package came with front and rear bumpers that have the little flair at the bottom that's a little different than the stock which is rounder at the bottom. Also where it meets the wheel well has a flair also and the side skirts as well. Without the package is straight side skirts and rounder rear bumper. Thats how it comes that year along with 18" AMG rims per my delivery sheet.
They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.
Here is a member with the same year car without the package..
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245291
This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.
Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.
They stopped making the AMG kit that you see on member Gondon's car for example with the facelifts and went with a more aerodymanic less bulky looking enhancement. But still gave it a little more aggressive appearance.
Here is a member with the same year car without the package..
https://mbworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=245291
This is a nice car also but you can see how the rear is more rounded at the bottom around the wheel wells and in the back. This is a different bumper as it is a few inches shorter at the bottom and it doesn't contour the rear wheel as much.
Including the actual AMG bumper, there are about 6 rear bumper deviations on this car from 2002-2006. And there are 5 front bumper designs..
Of course none of the facelift bumpers for the front will fit prefacelift cars and vise versa. I think the rears will all work with the exception of the AMG with the cut-out apron.
????????? are you sure about that I have two buddies that one has a 04 s430 sport and the other an 04 s500 sport with the same exact body styling both cars are not aftermarket, but original from the dealer. I also searched ebay an found an 04 s430 sport http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m350062657836&
with the same exact kit as there's. Here is an 05 s500 sport with the same body styling of the 04
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m310048468235&
I think something is wrong here or I am really confused
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Last edited by jfendis430; May 23, 2008 at 06:01 PM.
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????????? are you sure about that I have two buddies that one has a 04 s430 sport and the other an 04 s500 sport with the same exact body styling both cars are not aftermarket, but original from the dealer. I also searched ebay an found an 04 s430 sport http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m350062657836&
with the same exact kit as there's. Here is an 05 s500 sport with the same body styling of the 04
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m310048468235&
I think something is wrong here or I am really confused.
with the same exact kit as there's. Here is an 05 s500 sport with the same body styling of the 04
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-...m310048468235&
I think something is wrong here or I am really confused
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I don't know why they did that, but they did. they've done crazier.... BUt thery really did some weird things with option choices in these years.. it all depends on how you ordered the car or maybe the build date I don;t know.. I have a feb 2004 car so those might be earlier build models because you don;t see that kit on any of the newer vrsions...... THey all say AMG sport package so go figure... Like I said That how mine came and its on the order sheet that way.
go figure maybe someone here and confirm?
Last edited by jfendis430; May 23, 2008 at 06:50 PM.
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No...
It was a year and change old but I have friends who sell at MB dealers so i got a copy of the delivery sheet before I bought it because I was wondering how it got the 18" AMG's on it. But that's the option that it had listed.
I am the second owner.
It was a year and change old but I have friends who sell at MB dealers so i got a copy of the delivery sheet before I bought it because I was wondering how it got the 18" AMG's on it. But that's the option that it had listed.
I am the second owner.
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im just asking because mine is a 2002 non-sport and looks identical to yours excluding the taillights, headlights,hood/grill, and of course the interior. here is a pic of mine with a similiar angle pic that you posted.
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Oh yeah.. there was also the deletion of the SXXX Sport. You won;t see many of those after 2004 either. Maybe thats why..
They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.
I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.
I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
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LOL MY06CLK
You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.
I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"
Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.
Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".
Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.
I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"
Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.
Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".
Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
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LOL MY06CLK
You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.
I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"
Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.
Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".
Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
You got ****ed!! Dealer played you and so did that peice of paper.
I repeat you do not have the "AMG Sport Package"
Im 100% confident you dont have the Sport Package.
Go to your dealer and be like "Whats going on my invoice says I had the Sport Package, but its not on the car then they have to perfrom by contract".
Its just like JDfenis said and his pics from Ebay
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None to speak of..New "updated" Cats ( made a huge difference ),Acelerator module ( new ), Different Camshaft sensor (very noticeable performance difference). my "Fancy" airbox, And I did have me Dealer download some "New" software recently and since then my car freakin Screams!! I lost about 2 to 3 mpg average,(21/23 versus 23/26) but The shifting, Take-off, and intermediate power is great!!..
Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...
People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
Other than that. I always have clean air filtering, and good fuel pressure.. This keeps the engine at its peak at all times...
People say the 430 is weak, But I can still twist the rubber of my rear tires with no problems...And put a nice gap between myself and the rest of traffic at take-off.... My 0-to 60 is right the rating for 2004. Which is a little faster than pre facelift versions...
Your car weighs 4100lbs, it makes 275bhp. The "mods" as you call them are worth maybe 20bhp. Then again, that great fuel pressure you have may make the difference (im being sarcastic if you missed it).
That power to weight ratio puts you in the Stock 96 mustang Gt range, which is to say, not real good.
your car does not scream, nor is it fast. It is mildly quick, but it would most likely get waxed by a new V6 accord.
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Oh yeah.. there was also the deletion of the SXXX Sport. You won;t see many of those after 2004 either. Maybe thats why..
They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.
I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
They did the same thing with the W203 Sport and the W211 Sport.
I don;t know why... but I honestly like the smoother side, although Oi would prefer the other front bumper.. The one I don;t like is he roud rear with no lines at all.. there is a big difference in the look form the rear.
http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html
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Stick your VIN in here and see if it has the sport package listed.
http://old.mbclub.ru/mb/vin/view.html
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Completely agreed. Had quite a bit of time piloting an S430 4Matic every now and then, and that thing is no slouch. Enough grunt to keep yourself ahead of a large majority of traffic, and frankly, no noteworthy performance difference between our prior RWD 2002 S500, from the seat of the pants feel. That car is more than adequate for daily driving.
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I have no idea where I got that from.. Too many cars I guess.. as you can see it just says 646 18" 5 spoke alloy's .. Those must have been the AMG's that I removed.. It's unlikely the original owner swapped them, he traded this car for some big duelly truck at a ford dealer.. That's where I scooped it.
Originally Posted by oliverk
you need to stop racing stock 96 Mustang GTs.
Your car weighs 4100lbs, it makes 275bhp. The "mods" as you call them are worth maybe 20bhp. Then again, that great fuel pressure you have may make the difference (im being sarcastic if you missed it).
That power to weight ratio puts you in the Stock 96 mustang Gt range, which is to say, not real good.
your car does not scream, nor is it fast. It is mildly quick, but it would most likely get waxed by a new V6 accord.
Your car weighs 4100lbs, it makes 275bhp. The "mods" as you call them are worth maybe 20bhp. Then again, that great fuel pressure you have may make the difference (im being sarcastic if you missed it).
That power to weight ratio puts you in the Stock 96 mustang Gt range, which is to say, not real good.
your car does not scream, nor is it fast. It is mildly quick, but it would most likely get waxed by a new V6 accord.
Yeah its fast (enough)..LOL And you have no idea what the hell you are talking about..
winning a race is all about the person behind the wheel not how much your car weigh's or how fast it is..But lets not go there.
I did have a humorous story about a teenager in miami and a cobra to share with the person I was originally taking to, but since you've spilled Hater-Aid all over it I'll decline. HOnda accord Please.. IS that what you drive??
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Even if it does the last owner prob scraped it and sold it for $$ haha.
And learn how to spell what are you 12?
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