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S430 to S55 amg engine swap??

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Old 10-16-2017, 01:31 AM
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I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.

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Old 10-16-2017, 02:48 PM
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If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).

Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
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Originally Posted by Kevin Kellner
I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.
Hold on there, Kevin. You resurrect a five year old zombie thread, just so you can criticize people on this forum?

Seriously?

That's your first post?

Talk about clueless...
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Hold on there, Kevin. You resurrect a five year old zombie thread, just so you can criticize people on this forum?

Seriously?

That's your first post?

Talk about clueless...
I think it was a good comment
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S430 to S55 Swap

I’m thinking of doing this as well. Or should I just install a cold air intake, and tune the ECU?? What would give me more results??
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I’m thinking of doing this as well. Or should I just install a cold air intake, and tune the ECU?? What would give me more results??
putting the 00-02 s55 engine will definitely give you more power . It’s a simple swap

trying to put in the s55k supercharged engine from 2003-later is a very complex process
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S430;to s55:amg engine swap

Originally Posted by SFBIGBODY415
The non super charged engine is not that much more powerful. I wouldn't waste $ on it
Why do you tell this guy that the supercharged s55 engine would not work but the non supercharged would.why didn't you tell him how to do it?You either don't know what your talking about or don't know the answer,just curious 🧐..
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That's true but if he does full wiring harness and ECU/TCU swap he'll have another issue to deal with. The ECU are TCU and VIN encoded and it CANNOT be edited. Watch out OP because you can't change the VIN on the ECU/TCU and you will therefore have the identity of the other car.
Yes you can you just need the ecu/tcu the key ,shifter, ignition that came with engine and you can find at junk yard
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recoded to what? the VIN number and mileage? maybe but ive heard its a once write many read type of thing and would require a new ECU/TCU.
See you "HEARD" you people give false info all the time I had to respond once,you probably don't even turn a wrench I read it all the time I have turned every bolt on a s class I know what I'm talking about

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Originally Posted by C280 Sport
Best thing to do is to sell the S430 and find yourself a 2003-2006 S55 AMG. Those years have engine you are looking for. Either that or be prepared to send your car off to a tunner and spend big money for little performance.
Why it's the same w220 chasse.like I said key fob computer,shifter and ignition
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i'm all for modifying/tuning/customizing cars, but IMHO it makes little sense to build a car that was already built by the manufacturer and you can buy. unless the OP can acquire the parts for pennies on the dollar and has the resources and/or skill required to do the swap for cheap, the smart decision would be to sell the current car and buy the vehicle he wants. in doing the engine swap, you get the desired engine but miss out on the additional features/options that come with the S55.
man this guy has no idea what he's talking about I could make this happen ,no problem.this is a joke what your saying all you say is get a different car you have no clue about a Benz s class man it's annoying it not hard and you say little power increase try alot supercharged increase,yes I'll take this Pepsi challenge...
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Im not trying to argue with you but as you state your not sure about how it works and im saying it can be done and seen it done before, the ECU can be coded to work, I really dont understand why you cant grab the concept of it working theres a few members here on this board that have made it work. One is made a CLS500 in to a CLS55 and even using the newer 7 speed tranny, then you have another member that put it in to a completely different car ( crossfire srt6) there's a member that put a 32komperssor engine in to a CLK please use your friend the SEARCH button and research before you deter someone from doing what they want based off you lack of knowledge
OP man go to a different site these guys are a joke they just argue with each other and they don't know what the ____there talking about,damn it's annoying.Or get ahold of me ...
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Originally Posted by Libraman2k1
So the supercharged S55 engine will NOT adapt to the S430?--Is there anything I can do to increase my performance??
Yes it will I guess I'll have to teach you know it all's
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Originally Posted by Libraman2k1
So the supercharged S55 engine will NOT adapt to the S430?--Is there anything I can do to increase my performance??
Yes it will I guess I'll have to teach you know it all's
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Originally Posted by Steven Mott
Yes it will I guess I'll have to teach you know it all's
lmk what information you have. I’m actually doing a swap now, literally. RWD S430 swapped to N/A 5.5 with nitrous, long tube headers, custom exhaust, custom intake. I’ll post pictures soon!!
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lmk what information you have. I’m actually doing a swap now, literally. RWD S430 swapped to N/A 5.5 with nitrous, long tube headers, custom exhaust, custom intake. I’ll post pictures soon!!
So what kind of problems are you having?Is the s55 engine in car now?w220 with stock trans and rear differential and axles?You say nitrous,"what kit are you installing.Have you looked into the trans and rear end being able to handle that power.If yes who told you?Why nitrous why not supercharger made by Benz 160 hp bolt on?Nitrous will thrash the motor real quick.I 've been building my 430 for about 3;years.Did you do any head work like port n polish any ecu tuner modular? Did you install Forged parts to handle nitrous?yeah so what kind of issues are you having,computers?

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Yes it will I guess I'll have to teach you know it all's
no a supercharged s55 motor will not simply adapt to a s430. The Bosch 2.8.1 ecu has physical differences that cannot be re-programmed. The drivers for the supercharger clutch is the first that comes to mind. You can swap all the DAS equipment or use a piggyback ecu to make it work. But to say a s55k motor simply adapts to a s430 is a stretch.

by that definition, Chevy Ls motors, coyotes and dodge 392’s also “adapt” to a s430, but no one is gonna say that
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So what kind of problems are you having?Is the s55 engine in car now?w220 with stock trans and rear differential and axles?You say nitrous,"what kit are you installing.Have you looked into the trans and rear end being able to handle that power.If yes who told you?Why nitrous why not supercharger made by Benz 160 hp bolt on?Nitrous will thrash the motor real quick.I 've been building my 430 for about 3;years.Did you do any head work like port n polish any ecu tuner modular? Did you install Forged parts to handle nitrous?yeah so what kind of issues are you having,computers?
I know 113’s running nitrous on stock internals. And you mention trashing a motor but recommend a blower instead of an inherently more efficient means of forced induction known as turbocharging
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Originally Posted by Kevin Kellner
I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.
Man that's good news. I am currently building my 03 s430 because the car means something to me otherwise I probably would build s55. I have been building my 03 s430 w220 for like 5 years. I have s55 cams, I just ported and polished my cylinder heads and I'm going to put my s55 cams and I guess all the springs. That is Awesome that the s55 crank fit's as it belongs there. Did you get a lot more power from the very slow launch from a stop? Is it worth installing the crank? I imagine it did. As of now I have cold air intake, polished throttle body, JDM stage 3 chip tuner along with a pedal commander , 2 1/2 stainless exhaust all new suspension built for hanging corners. Have the air struts on a toggle switch in cab to raise or lower at my liking.Upper strut sway bars, AMG front calipers you get the point. I'm kinda nervous about installing my head with the s55 cams and my porting job . Did you have any problems or snags? Any advise you can pass to me.? I can't find anyone to give me basically" instructions " to install a Mercedes super charger. You think the trans and rear end would be fine? Sorry for picking your brain with all the questions just really enjoy building my bad *** Benz.

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Originally Posted by S430AMG
If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).

Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
it's a hobby and my Benz serves as luxury, relaxing and power. Very comfortable, here is a pic.

My Benz

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Originally Posted by S430AMG
If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).

Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
it's a hobby and my Benz serves as luxury, relaxing and power. Very comfortable, here is a pic.

My Benz


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Originally Posted by Steven Mott
Man that's good news. I am currently building my 03 s430 because the car means something to me otherwise I probably would build s55. I have been building my 03 s430 w220 for like 5 years. I have s55 cams, I just ported and polished my cylinder heads and I'm going to put my s55 cams and I guess all the springs. That is Awesome that the s55 crank fit's as it belongs there. Did you get a lot more power from the very slow launch from a stop? Is it worth installing the crank? I imagine it did. As of now I have cold air intake, polished throttle body, JDM stage 3 chip tuner along with a pedal commander , 2 1/2 stainless exhaust all new suspension built for hanging corners. Have the air struts on a toggle switch in cab to raise or lower at my liking.Upper strut sway bars, AMG front calipers you get the point. I'm kinda nervous about installing my head with the s55 cams and my porting job . Did you have any problems or snags? Any advise you can pass to me.? I can't find anyone to give me basically" instructions " to install a Mercedes super charger. You think the trans and rear end would be fine? Sorry for picking your brain with all the questions just really enjoy building my bad *** Benz.
Dude. He’s a troll.

Made one, just one, post several years ago. He’s not going to help you.

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