S430 to S55 amg engine swap??
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I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.
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2006 S430 AMG
If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
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I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.
Seriously?
That's your first post?
Talk about clueless...
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trying to put in the s55k supercharged engine from 2003-later is a very complex process
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S430;to s55:amg engine swap
Thank you
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That's true but if he does full wiring harness and ECU/TCU swap he'll have another issue to deal with. The ECU are TCU and VIN encoded and it CANNOT be edited. Watch out OP because you can't change the VIN on the ECU/TCU and you will therefore have the identity of the other car.
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Why it's the same w220 chasse.like I said key fob computer,shifter and ignition
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i'm all for modifying/tuning/customizing cars, but IMHO it makes little sense to build a car that was already built by the manufacturer and you can buy. unless the OP can acquire the parts for pennies on the dollar and has the resources and/or skill required to do the swap for cheap, the smart decision would be to sell the current car and buy the vehicle he wants. in doing the engine swap, you get the desired engine but miss out on the additional features/options that come with the S55.
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Im not trying to argue with you but as you state your not sure about how it works and im saying it can be done and seen it done before, the ECU can be coded to work, I really dont understand why you cant grab the concept of it working theres a few members here on this board that have made it work. One is made a CLS500 in to a CLS55 and even using the newer 7 speed tranny, then you have another member that put it in to a completely different car ( crossfire srt6)
there's a member that put a 32komperssor engine in to a CLK please use your friend the SEARCH button and research before you deter someone from doing what they want based off you lack of knowledge
there's a member that put a 32komperssor engine in to a CLK please use your friend the SEARCH button and research before you deter someone from doing what they want based off you lack of knowledge
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00 s430
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S430 to s55
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no a supercharged s55 motor will not simply adapt to a s430. The Bosch 2.8.1 ecu has physical differences that cannot be re-programmed. The drivers for the supercharger clutch is the first that comes to mind. You can swap all the DAS equipment or use a piggyback ecu to make it work. But to say a s55k motor simply adapts to a s430 is a stretch.
by that definition, Chevy Ls motors, coyotes and dodge 392’s also “adapt” to a s430, but no one is gonna say that
by that definition, Chevy Ls motors, coyotes and dodge 392’s also “adapt” to a s430, but no one is gonna say that
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So what kind of problems are you having?Is the s55 engine in car now?w220 with stock trans and rear differential and axles?You say nitrous,"what kit are you installing.Have you looked into the trans and rear end being able to handle that power.If yes who told you?Why nitrous why not supercharger made by Benz 160 hp bolt on?Nitrous will thrash the motor real quick.I 've been building my 430 for about 3;years.Did you do any head work like port n polish any ecu tuner modular? Did you install Forged parts to handle nitrous?yeah so what kind of issues are you having,computers?
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I noticed most people here have never worked on their own car. And ton those people that have never worked on a car never turn the wrench and have always paid somebody else do it shut the **** up. Mercedes-Benz tends to be really compatible with changing stuff up I actually have an S430 with an S 55AMG (na) Cam set and crank from the motor . I installed it when I rebuilt it it went right in I didn't have to do anything but get a tune. The only thing that limits you is your own experience and your inability to learn ,and in some cases your willingness to experiment. I swear people are clueless and skillless.
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It's a hobby
If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
My Benz
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00 s430
It's a hobby
If you want a fast car, buy another car. Sure you can make the S class as fast as you want but it will cost you and at the end of the day these cars serve a completely different purpose (luxury, reward, relaxing).
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
Personally I think my S430 is plenty of fast. I'm not trying to race and when I need it to go, it goes! The car is simply effortless.
My Benz
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Man that's good news. I am currently building my 03 s430 because the car means something to me otherwise I probably would build s55. I have been building my 03 s430 w220 for like 5 years. I have s55 cams, I just ported and polished my cylinder heads and I'm going to put my s55 cams and I guess all the springs. That is Awesome that the s55 crank fit's as it belongs there. Did you get a lot more power from the very slow launch from a stop? Is it worth installing the crank? I imagine it did. As of now I have cold air intake, polished throttle body, JDM stage 3 chip tuner along with a pedal commander , 2 1/2 stainless exhaust all new suspension built for hanging corners. Have the air struts on a toggle switch in cab to raise or lower at my liking.Upper strut sway bars, AMG front calipers you get the point. I'm kinda nervous about installing my head with the s55 cams and my porting job . Did you have any problems or snags? Any advise you can pass to me.? I can't find anyone to give me basically" instructions " to install a Mercedes super charger. You think the trans and rear end would be fine? Sorry for picking your brain with all the questions just really enjoy building my bad *** Benz.
Made one, just one, post several years ago. He’s not going to help you.
