jahummer

Reading all of the various threads and posts on this subject has left me a bit confused.

There appears to be contridictions on what actually is involved in the upgrade. I have read that the bumper MUST be removed, I have read that the bumper does not need to be removed. I have read that xenon to bi-xenon is 100% plug-n-play, I have read that wiring harnesses must be changed out. I have read that a module for the auto level must be added or the headlamp units themselves must be modified, etc, etc.

Does anyone know 100% for certain what is REALLY involved here? Thanks.

Thericker

miroj

Thats probably the most stupid thing I have seen all month. There are dozens of inventions in the market place and none of them are cheaper than the option from the Mercedes factory.

Look for yourself why take my word for it. Tell me which one is easier. In many S-Class the lamp washer is installed.

S-Class Xenon installation
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http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/y1.pdf
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/y2.pdf
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/y3.pdf

C-Class Xenon installation
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http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/x1.pdf
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/x2.pdf
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/x3.pdf
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/bigpill/x4.pdf

miroj

Just read the factory installation and judge for yourself.

Wolfman

Looks like a pretty meaningless post, unless you are of course a mechanic, which btw. most S-classs owners are not. I assume you are suggesting to replace the wiring harness instead of getting an adapter cable? That's simpler? Or what exactly is so simple?

Don't have a clue what the comment with the lamp washer is for. Are you in the US? Love to see some links of these dozens of inventions...

Wolfman

miroj

Most people who dont know would print out the HOW-TO and have a read of the proper method.

Useless post ? Any mechanic in the world can follow Benz instructions. If they cant do you really want them working on your car ?

Wolfman

I would agree with you on the How-to, but not on the ease. Like I said, great for mechanics...

Useless beacuse the W220 documents you have provided are not really relevant as they describe the upgrade to Xenon and auto-leveling of the pre-03 models (which btw. require some dissassembly of the car interior as well), not the headlamp upgrade discussed in this thread.

Wolfman

PS. How about those links? I am really curious about these other innovations you were referring to?

miroj

Anyone with half a clue will see that Mercedes cabling is the correct method.

SUHAIL

These seem to be europian specs. righthand steering and all, and seems to be an upgrade from halogen to xenon. ??

miroj

I dont think you gauge the simplicity of the task. These details are irrelevant. The cables you install are for the lights you install. That is why there is more than one part number.

Wolfman

I can only assume from your responses that have never actually installed the discussed upgrade. It also seems that you can't provide a specific reply to any question...

Coming back to the original post from Suhail upgrading from Xenon to Bi-Xenon, please post the details of your "simple" approach.
Since we already know that this can be done a different way in 20 minutes for about $300 plus the headlights, I'd like to hear about your approach.
None of the documents you have provided refer to this upgrade nor are the part numbers useful for this upgrade (they are for the old model), so please enlighten us with your experience.
Such as which parts (& Part No's) to use, costs, labor time, etc. so that the forum members can benefit and make up their mind which way to go...

And what about more info on these dozens of innovations you were referring to? Still waiting...

Wolfman

SUHAIL

I agree with Wolfman, your posts are low on substance. I am sure everyone will agree that it is always a preffered situation when we can keep any and all services as close to the manufacturers specs as possible.

That being said, we all have half a clue as to how to do most things, like change oil, cabin filters, etc. But most of us have someone who does it for a living do it, because they can do it faster, and have the know how.

Miroj has yet to give us the details on the multiple things that are out there on the upgrade subject.

Suhail

standman

Have a S430 which I had a guy from Miami replace them to Bi-Xenons. I will post pics. tom.. Cost me $2,500 for both headlamps and rear taillights including install.