Lexus LS430 or New S350
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Originally Posted by baubaulu
Where can i find the information about the new LS430?
Look on a Lexus forum or the Lexus web site for info on the LS430...
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WTF? You cant even say that the RL and new S class have anything in common. Please do some research before comparing two very different vehicles let alone making such a bold statement on a public forum. ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I DO like the new W221. I'm just saying you guys are bashing the new LS too early. Remeber when we only saw spy shots of the W221, almost eveyone hated it for being too 7-Series-ish? Well after seeing it in person many people changed their mind. That's what i'm getting at with my comment.
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I DO like the new W221. I'm just saying you guys are bashing the new LS too early.
Keep in mind the name of this site..."MBWorld Discussion Forum...For The Mercedes Benz Enthusiast." The Lexus and most other cars will be "bashed" here sooner or later and during and in the future and in the past....etc.
If price and goodies are your thing...then the Lexus may be your choice. If safety, heritage, and engineering are your thing...then MB is your choice. If someone is trying to make a decision on whether to buy a LS430 (or LS460) or a W221 (or even the outgoing W220) then there is no contest. If there is a contest in someones mind...then start posting on the Lexus forums because you will probably get "bashed" and end up with buyers remorse...
I DO like the new W221. I'm just saying you guys are bashing the new LS too early.
Keep in mind the name of this site..."MBWorld Discussion Forum...For The Mercedes Benz Enthusiast." The Lexus and most other cars will be "bashed" here sooner or later and during and in the future and in the past....etc.
If price and goodies are your thing...then the Lexus may be your choice. If safety, heritage, and engineering are your thing...then MB is your choice. If someone is trying to make a decision on whether to buy a LS430 (or LS460) or a W221 (or even the outgoing W220) then there is no contest. If there is a contest in someones mind...then start posting on the Lexus forums because you will probably get "bashed" and end up with buyers remorse...
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Originally Posted by asianml
I know it's going to get bashed. But too early to say.
Hmmm. What would a compromise be between the two?
Hmmm. What would a compromise be between the two?
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This is off-topic i know i'm going to get bashed for this too but...How's the S430 going so far?
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Is the R still in your sights for the future?
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Originally Posted by Nevada Jack
No...not for a while. I really only need one car and the S will satisfy me for a long time. In a couple of years I may look at what the diesel market is doing in the W221 and the R but I am happy with the mileage on the S. 17-19 in the city and as high as 28 on the highway.
Damn Jack, that pretty good gas mileage. Hell my V6 TL gives me less. Thats pretty amazing for such a heavy car with an old engine no longer made.
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Damn Jack, that pretty good gas mileage. Hell my V6 TL gives me less. Thats pretty amazing for such a heavy car with an old engine no longer made. ![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I was amazed when I did that check with the computer. I don't expect them to hold that high all the time but it looks like the EPA figures are right on the money. 17/26. I guess they tweaked all they could out of that engine...although is the new S450 (W221) the same block or are they using a new block?
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Its a new DOHC block with 4 valves per cylinder. It also have Variable Valve timing on exhaust and intake. Should be a killer engine.
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Honda - VTEC, i-VTEC (i stands for variable timing control)
Toyota - VVT or VVT-i
BMW - Valvetronic
Mercedes - Variable Valve Timing
Volvo and some others - Continuously variable valve timing.
All are pretty much the same damn thing with just different names.
Toyota - VVT or VVT-i
BMW - Valvetronic
Mercedes - Variable Valve Timing
Volvo and some others - Continuously variable valve timing.
All are pretty much the same damn thing with just different names.
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Originally Posted by can drive 55
The performance of an S430 that I drove was superior to the LS430. I am sure the S500, and especially the new V8 will run circles around the Lexus.
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Really? Never driven a LS430, but that's compliments to my car. I was thinking a current LS430 would be faster, since it has something like 295 hp compared to my 275.
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If I were you baubaulu I would get the S350 considering it would be an all-new body style and probably a hot ticket item! The Lex LS430 is an excellent car but it will be replaced before too long now...unless you want to wait for it and then compare!!!
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Originally Posted by MBFanatic4Life
If I were you baubaulu I would get the S350 considering it would be an all-new body style and probably a hot ticket item! The Lex LS430 is an excellent car but it will be replaced before too long now...unless you want to wait for it and then compare!!!
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That's what I thought Nevada_Jack, but it's in the W221 section so I thought he was asking about the W221 S350 and the LS430. But then I noticed he's from the states and got even more confused because I didn't think the W221 S350 was going to be availabe here...maybe he was confused or misinformed also!!?? Anyway talking about the W220 S350 and current LS430 I would still choose the S350 because it's an MB and it's classic design will never die!!!
BTW-Nevada_Jack that's one nice equipped S430 you have there!!!
BTW-Nevada_Jack that's one nice equipped S430 you have there!!!
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Originally Posted by MBFanatic4Life
That's what I thought Nevada_Jack, but it's in the W221 section so I thought he was asking about the W221 S350 and the LS430. But then I noticed he's from the states and got even more confused because I didn't think the W221 S350 was going to be availabe here...maybe he was confused or misinformed also!!?? Anyway talking about the W220 S350 and current LS430 I would still choose the S350 because it's an MB and it's classic design will never die!!!
BTW-Nevada_Jack that's one nice equipped S430 you have there!!!
BTW-Nevada_Jack that's one nice equipped S430 you have there!!!
Thanks for the nice comment on my S430...should look a little nicer when I get the wood wheel installed this week...:-)