S-Class (W221) 2007-2013: S 320 CDI, S 350, S 450, S 500, S 550, S 420 CDI, S 600

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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 02:50 AM
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New S-Class engine

Does anyone know when the new S500 engine will trickle down to the other Benz models (SL, CLS)?
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 03:52 AM
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SL should get the engine hopefully sometime in 2007 with the facelift.

However, its hard to say when the CLS, E, ML, R might get the new engine since there is a rumor going around that there is a 4.5 liter V8 coming out soon for the US market. Lets just hope this is false. I for one think that the S350 with the new 3.5 liter V6 is more than adequate to replace the current 4.3 liter V8 in use right now on the S.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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No rumor.
Its true......at least Mercedes Benz of Princeton said so.
I know, what do dealers know, right?

The Car Connection said so also in this article:
S-Class Review

"U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission. The S600 remains the most exclusive and powerful S-Class model, with a 5.5-liter bi-turbo V-12 underhood now making 510 hp and 612 lb-ft."

MB has a HUGE market for the smaller V8 in the U.S.....they have to bring that engine here. I wonder if the E-Class will get both V8 engines?
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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This is still not enough power to compete with the new BMW 550i. I think the 450 is a bad idea and they should just stick with the new 5.5 liter V8 as it will significantly more power than the new BMW engine.
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This is still not enough power to compete with the new BMW 550i. I think the 450 is a bad idea and they should just stick with the new 5.5 liter V8 as it will significantly more power than the new BMW engine.
For the S-Class I think the 450 engine will sell just fine. But as far as the E-Class vs the BMW 550 goes, I hope you don't think that MB wants to do BMW a favor for maybe an extra $100 per engine?

They won't even bother with the smaller V8 in the E-Class;;they'll just use the new 5.5 liter.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Regardless of what MBUSA does its going to be an interesting year to see what happens with the E, CLS, SL, S, C, and ML engines and designs.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RichReg
No rumor.
Its true......at least Mercedes Benz of Princeton said so.
I know, what do dealers know, right?

The Car Connection said so also in this article:
S-Class Review

"U.S.-bound S-Class choices will be limited to the S450, S500, and S600. The S450 and S500 offer newly reworked V-8s; the S450 will have a 4.6-liter V-8, making 335 hp and 339 lb-ft of torque, while the S500 will have a 5.5-liter V-8 good for 382 hp and 391 lb-ft of torque. Both are paired with a new seven-speed automatic transmission. The S600 remains the most exclusive and powerful S-Class model, with a 5.5-liter bi-turbo V-12 underhood now making 510 hp and 612 lb-ft."

MB has a HUGE market for the smaller V8 in the U.S.....they have to bring that engine here. I wonder if the E-Class will get both V8 engines?
I see this quite frequently and it is just a mistake that people keep making (dont' get me wrong, I know you're just quoting someone else here) .. but the S600 is the V12 .. the S65 is the bi-turbo V12 and puts out over 600hp .. as it would make no sense to have a V12 bi-turbo putting out 510hp when the V8kompressor puts out 498 (or whatever the number is, close to that) ..

For some reason whenever anyone mentions the engine on the S600 they think THAT is the V12 bi-turbo .. it's not.

And yes, I know this is a little .. .. !
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:27 PM
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I see this quite frequently and it is just a mistake that people keep making (dont' get me wrong, I know you're just quoting someone else here) .. but the S600 is the V12 .. the S65 is the bi-turbo V12 and puts out over 600hp .. as it would make no sense to have a V12 bi-turbo putting out 510hp when the V8kompressor puts out 498 (or whatever the number is, close to that) ..

For some reason whenever anyone mentions the engine on the S600 they think THAT is the V12 bi-turbo .. it's not.

And yes, I know this is a little .. .. !
Ahh sorry but your wrong----in 2003 Mercedes made the 600 motors w/493hp 590ftlb torque Twin-turbocharged V-12's------The 65 AMG motors are virtually the same but have slightly more displacement, and super tweaked turbos making the 600odd hp & 740to Only the 00-02' 600 motors came w/out Turbos This info is straight out of a Mercedes Brochure

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I see this quite frequently and it is just a mistake that people keep making (dont' get me wrong, I know you're just quoting someone else here) .. but the S600 is the V12 .. the S65 is the bi-turbo V12 and puts out over 600hp .. as it would make no sense to have a V12 bi-turbo putting out 510hp when the V8kompressor puts out 498 (or whatever the number is, close to that) ..

For some reason whenever anyone mentions the engine on the S600 they think THAT is the V12 bi-turbo .. it's not.

And yes, I know this is a little .. .. !
http://www.mbusa.com/brand/models/S600V.jsp

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