ABC Question
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ABC Question
hey guys,
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
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Originally Posted by calvinlgoh
hey guys,
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
The ABC really is quite a fabulous feature - it is eary to make a turn at high speeds, and expect the car to naturally roll as the weight shifts....... but you remain flat, and in sport mode, even MORE flat. If that is the kind of performance youd expect from the car, ABC will definetly meet your wishes.
I dont know anything bout lowering so I dunno what to say about that. Check with your dealer if lowering will effect the ABC.
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Originally Posted by calvinlgoh
hey guys,
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
I ordered the S550 with the ABC option and wanted your opinions on whether its worth the $3900. It seems pretty steep for just a suspension system. I have no doubts that its a highly sophisticated system. My question is that since I am 100% sure I am going to lower the car, either via star or some lowering module, will the ABC still perform to its full potential. Will lowering the car compromise the ABC in any way or will it still perform what it was meant to do.
Subsequently, since I am going to lower the car, will a suspension setup from Brabus, Kleemann or other tuning house perform better in terms of spirited driving when compared to the ABC, i.e. cornering.
thanks,
Calvin
BTW...it is certainly worth the $3900! The ride is superb and roll and sway is a thing of the past.
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lowering effects?
Check with someone who knows, like Mercedes dealers who also sell modified vehicles (custom performance, etc.).
I certainly trust Hartmut at RennTech, who used to be AMG USA manager, before Mercedes bought them...
www.renntechmercedes.com
I certainly trust Hartmut at RennTech, who used to be AMG USA manager, before Mercedes bought them...
www.renntechmercedes.com
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THanks guys... will definitely try to get someone who knows the system well to chime in on this... let you guys know if i come out with anything...
at least I know from Jack that its well worth the $3900
calvin
at least I know from Jack that its well worth the $3900
calvin
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Originally Posted by Dvinn
Isn't ABC part of the airmatic system? If you can order one without ABC does the car still have airmatic, or it will use springs instead?
Airmatic is one suspension using Air pumpes.
ABC is a totally different one, using Hydraulics....
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Calling Renntech is a great suggestion. You know that lowering the car will not provide any handling advantages ....a S550 w/ABC drives like it's on rails anyway. Make sure you don't screw up something that millions of dollars went into the engineering of. If lowering is purely an aesthetic thing with you, you might consider ordering the car without ABC and do what ever you want. I would suspect that lowering the car would possibly screw up the suspension dynamics.
Hartmut at Renntech will know. If it can be done, he will know. If he says no...don't try it. If he says yes...get your check book out.
Hartmut at Renntech will know. If it can be done, he will know. If he says no...don't try it. If he says yes...get your check book out.
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Originally Posted by sprink49
Calling Renntech is a great suggestion. You know that lowering the car will not provide any handling advantages ....a S550 w/ABC drives like it's on rails anyway. Make sure you don't screw up something that millions of dollars went into the engineering of. If lowering is purely an aesthetic thing with you, you might consider ordering the car without ABC and do what ever you want. I would suspect that lowering the car would possibly screw up the suspension dynamics.
Hartmut at Renntech will know. If it can be done, he will know. If he says no...don't try it. If he says yes...get your check book out.
Hartmut at Renntech will know. If it can be done, he will know. If he says no...don't try it. If he says yes...get your check book out.
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Originally Posted by 2007sclass.com
It possible to lower the S550 via reprogramming the ABC computer. Your dealer can lower the setting on the ABC without adding any additional equipment.
Wow, does that effect ride quality (for the good and the bad)..... how much can they lower it?
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Thanks Glauser for replying. I would think that since the ABC is programmable via the dealership, its performance would not be compromised. Otherwise, the dealer or MB themselves would not have made it possible to do so.
In anycase, I will call Renntech to make sure as well as Brabus NA and see if they know anything.
I would definitely not compromise the performance of the ABC system, however, I would want the car to sit lower for aesthetic reasons so I would probably cancel the ABC on my order. I am planning install the Brabus package, and not lowering the car just dont sound right.
Glauser, pls chime in on the performance of the car with lowered ABC settings via the dealer. How was the cars that had the Brabus, Lorinser and Carlsson packages lowered? The respective brands lowering module? Did they have ABC?
Thanks
Calvin
In anycase, I will call Renntech to make sure as well as Brabus NA and see if they know anything.
I would definitely not compromise the performance of the ABC system, however, I would want the car to sit lower for aesthetic reasons so I would probably cancel the ABC on my order. I am planning install the Brabus package, and not lowering the car just dont sound right.
Glauser, pls chime in on the performance of the car with lowered ABC settings via the dealer. How was the cars that had the Brabus, Lorinser and Carlsson packages lowered? The respective brands lowering module? Did they have ABC?
Thanks
Calvin
