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Old 12-10-2006, 07:13 AM
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High Speed Shudder- S550 on 20" w A/S

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I am getting a shudder at around 80-90mph... Either balancing or a Mich Pilot A/S issue??? Any ideas. As we all know an S glides on air even at 120 mph.

I am taking it to my dealer on Monday to check it out.
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Get your wheels balanced.
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Have them balanced on a Hunter Road Force balance machine.
That method will simulate the loading force that your tires have when weight is applied rather than free wheeling on a non road force type machine.
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Apparantly what can happen if you have just put new wheels on the car is that it's very easy with the Mb stud pattern to fit the wheels slightly off and get a vibration, also I don't know how heavy the 221 is but I know my 140 is prone to flat spotting on the tyres if it sits for a while.
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the pilot sport A/S has had issues with balancing and MB will not warranty any suspension/alignment work with this on your car.

Anyway go to a tireshop that has a Hunter road force machine. Have them remove all the tires, measure the runout on all of your wheels and match the lowest point of the wheel with the highest point of the tire (the red dot on the tire). Once they do this they should mount it and road force balance, voila u should have super smooth ride after that.
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Originally Posted by Kar don
the pilot sport A/S has had issues with balancing and MB will not warranty any suspension/alignment work with this on your car.

Anyway go to a tireshop that has a Hunter road force machine. Have them remove all the tires, measure the runout on all of your wheels and match the lowest point of the wheel with the highest point of the tire (the red dot on the tire). Once they do this they should mount it and road force balance, voila u should have super smooth ride after that.
Michelin corrected the problem nearly a year ago. They are now approved by MBZ.
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That sounds like a balancing issue for sure. If it was anything else, it would shutter at all speed not at a specific speed.

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It does a barely perceivable wobble at the wheel at low speeds... but at 80mph it is pretty rude. MB says they will take care of it...
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measuring the wheel runout is critical to match the tires imo. Make sure they do that.
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Will do... thanks for the info!
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I don't know what kind of rims you have but make sure that they are hubcentric. If not you might need hub rings in each rim...
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He has stock AMG rims. The rims are not the problem. They are balanced incorrectly.
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My local dealer took care of it.... Rides on air now!!!

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