S550 v. S63
12-08-2008, 08:40 PM
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I doubt your really going to notice much of a difference between the two. Yea know about the extra hp and slightly better handling. If you REALLY want to see a big difference get a s600! i would take a 07 s600 over a 08 s63 .
12-08-2008, 09:23 PM
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They wanted to make sure those features appear first on the S Class, not the new E class.
12-11-2008, 02:37 PM
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'09 S63 AMG
To be precise, the S63 has as standard the following which are optional on the S550 (prices listed):
1. Premium Leather: $1330
2. Premium 2: $4990
3. Sport Package $5690 (Although 550 has 19" wheels instead of 20")
4. ABC $3960
5. Power Rear Side Window Blindes $720
Total: $16690
That is still a $23310 price premium for the S63
The fact is that a 550 with EVERY option INCLUDING designo would be considerably less than a base 63, and without designo, it is still $16535 less.
My point was that for 99.9% of people, the utility derived from having all the features on an S would be far greater than extra HP on top of the 382. Not to mention for those who drive a lot, the 63 is horribly inefficient compared to the 550.
Total $16690
1. Premium Leather: $1330
2. Premium 2: $4990
3. Sport Package $5690 (Although 550 has 19" wheels instead of 20")
4. ABC $3960
5. Power Rear Side Window Blindes $720
Total: $16690
That is still a $23310 price premium for the S63
The fact is that a 550 with EVERY option INCLUDING designo would be considerably less than a base 63, and without designo, it is still $16535 less.
My point was that for 99.9% of people, the utility derived from having all the features on an S would be far greater than extra HP on top of the 382. Not to mention for those who drive a lot, the 63 is horribly inefficient compared to the 550.
Total $16690
Untertürkheim, the main reason anyone would buy an S63 would be for the AMG performance. Period. The extra options are secondary. BTW, it's not P2, it's P3 that's standard on the S63. Also, the "sports pack" and "ABC" are not just the std. MB versions - they are AMG versions of "sports pack" and "ABC" which in and of themselves have a big premium. In addition, the side skirts and front apron are quite different from the regular sports pak..... not to mention the quad exhaust, sport steering w/shift paddles, etc.
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12-11-2008, 06:03 PM
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Trust me, I think your car is gorgeous, but after you drive cars like a Porsche 993 GT2 (yeah, I got super lucky there), A ferrari 360, M3s, Elises, etc, a lot of cars just seem to fall short.
Like I said, for a huge car, Im sure your car handles awesome, but its still a huge car.
Like I said, for a huge car, Im sure your car handles awesome, but its still a huge car.
I've owned a lot of sports cars from Germany and Italy but could never consider driving them daily, i.e. lack luxury, hassles, impractical, etc. But NOTHING beats them for the weekend blast around some great roads with Tubi exhaust!! However that said I can get all the luxury and practicality in my daily driver and get 80% of the handling performance with 100-110% of straight line performance for every day conditions in the 600 or 63.
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12-11-2008, 06:06 PM
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I'm not sure anyone buys an AMG car for the "alcantra headliner" or "massaging seats". If you've driven an AMG car you'll know what I'm talking about. The ride and handling is not even comparable.
Untertürkheim, the main reason anyone would buy an S63 would be for the AMG performance. Period. The extra options are secondary. BTW, it's not P2, it's P3 that's standard on the S63. Also, the "sports pack" and "ABC" are not just the std. MB versions - they are AMG versions of "sports pack" and "ABC" which in and of themselves have a big premium. In addition, the side skirts and front apron are quite different from the regular sports pak..... not to mention the quad exhaust, sport steering w/shift paddles, etc.
Untertürkheim, the main reason anyone would buy an S63 would be for the AMG performance. Period. The extra options are secondary. BTW, it's not P2, it's P3 that's standard on the S63. Also, the "sports pack" and "ABC" are not just the std. MB versions - they are AMG versions of "sports pack" and "ABC" which in and of themselves have a big premium. In addition, the side skirts and front apron are quite different from the regular sports pak..... not to mention the quad exhaust, sport steering w/shift paddles, etc.
"My point was that for 99.9% of people, the utility derived from having all the features on an S would be far greater than extra HP (or sporting inclination)on top of the 382"
This is based on my observations of driving conditions in the US: Laughably low speed limits, retarded drivers, horrible roads. Even one of the very few people with the personal ability to utilize more power and/or an AMG would see few opportunities to do so.
Also, consult the brochure, or your dealer, P2 is standard on the 63, not P3.
12-12-2008, 10:50 PM
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P2 is standard on the 63, but the 63 P3 consists only of Night View Assist at $1710. P3 on the S550 includes Drive Dynamic Seating & Night View, but is priced at $4990. From a purely "utility" perspective it should probably be called P2.5.
12-13-2008, 12:42 AM
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Yes your right but you cannot live with any of those cars as the main driver.
I've owned a lot of sports cars from Germany and Italy but could never consider driving them daily, i.e. lack luxury, hassles, impractical, etc. But NOTHING beats them for the weekend blast around some great roads with Tubi exhaust!! However that said I can get all the luxury and practicality in my daily driver and get 80% of the handling performance with 100-110% of straight line performance for every day conditions in the 600 or 63.
I've owned a lot of sports cars from Germany and Italy but could never consider driving them daily, i.e. lack luxury, hassles, impractical, etc. But NOTHING beats them for the weekend blast around some great roads with Tubi exhaust!! However that said I can get all the luxury and practicality in my daily driver and get 80% of the handling performance with 100-110% of straight line performance for every day conditions in the 600 or 63.
If I could only have one singular vehicle, it would be a 997 Twin Turbo. To me, that is the only car that has every day practicality, comfort and luxury options and sports car performance/handling.
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12-13-2008, 06:53 AM
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12-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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While I certainly respect your opinion, I can not agree with it. An S-class, even one with a jet engine and a rock hard ABC sports suspension is not enough for me to not long for a real light, nimble sorts car on the weekends.
If I could only have one singular vehicle, it would be a 997 Twin Turbo. To me, that is the only car that has every day practicality, comfort and luxury options and sports car performance/handling.
If I could only have one singular vehicle, it would be a 997 Twin Turbo. To me, that is the only car that has every day practicality, comfort and luxury options and sports car performance/handling.
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To me the 997has injected a substantial amount of luxury when compared to the 996 which in my opinion was worse than the 993. However Its still is way to sparse IMO for everydayability. In addition I have kids now so it would be impossible. I did have a 92 turbo that was my only car for about a year. It was awesome but I was single and in my late 20's. For me the ultimate "only" car is 65/600/63 in that order.
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