cjf_moraga

I took my S600 in for its 3 year anniversary service last week. I am only at 25,000 miles but my car has been in the shop all week due to a leak in the lubrication oil return pipe of the passenger side turbocharger. They had to send away for a spare part and actually take the engine completely out to gain access to repair it which sounds to my non-engineer/layman's mind rather drastic. (Though I know everything is tightly packed in there) Apparently the leak was contained by the panels underneath so I saw no signs on my driveway.

I pick up my car tomorrow and hopefully everything is bolted back in place and there is no impact on the cars long term mechanical integrity. Does anyone know if this is a known issue with the TT V12?

Chris

WSH

Sounds like major surgery

Personally, don't trust any post-factory outfit (even best dealer on SF Peninsula or BevHills) to do much beyond pre-deliv prep, oil change and tires replacement prior to trade-in for next, latest/greatest MB

Any tech-intensive, highly engineered car, like 600/65, is simply a more elevated version of an iPad or iPhone, with a similar <<2yr lifespan before obsolescence and opportunity costs of lessee kick in and one moves on...and, unlike pads/phones, cars (of any age) have serious safety/liability issues with any dynamic systems failures at speed...place own bets but IMO far cheaper to just lease a new 65 every 2yrs (at most)

emilner

I agree with WSH, the rate of decay of components is astonishing. To drive a two year old S class is a risk few people will want to take with their family. I have been petitioning MB to start 1 year leases so my family can be safe. Why they don't crush these cars after their second anniversary is beyond me. Talk about a liability lawsuit waiting to happen...

Quadcammer

I'm convinced you are a 12 year old computer nerd.

Your posts are literally some of the dumbest **** I've ever read.

emilner

cjf_moraga

In fact as these cars are so disposable, I don't know why MB does not program the COMMAND system to disable the airbags and central locking to properly punish anyone after two years for being so cheap as not to upgrade to a new S65.

Chris

transferred

not to mention the pathetic 600lbs of tq is totally inadequate for rush hr traffic on historic highway 740....

Jan AMG

I cannot lease 65 every two years because I need 4-Matic

Quadcammer

4matic is horrifically unsafe. Clearly the flimsy chassis of the S550 and the girly brakes along with the extremely dangerous 4matic results in a complete death mobile.

transferred

WSH has in fact said on numerous occasions that he'd rather be in an S65 than a 4 matic in the snow...guess he's never had to reverse up an icy driveway

armadillo...pretty sure wsh claims to lease in 12 month increments, hey he said it not me.

K-A

You guys are all just big stoopids, not leasing CL65's every 1 year. Do you even know what danger you're putting yourselves and others on the road in????

i_am_amused

WTF? You are a clueless troll.

Oh wait.. you're joking...

you got me...





I died just this morning driving my S55 to work. It spontaneously combusted. Luckily I pulled a Jesus (all due respect to Beck Wethers) so I get to see my kids again.

emilner

Gents, it's all fun and games until we lose someone to a decaying S. Please call your dealers and see if they can expedite a new 2011 for you. And don't even think of going for a leftover 2010. They have already lost 25% of their useful life sitting on the lot.

As for me, I live on the edge. It is the risk that keeps me going and I for one relish the thought of driving my S even knowing the car is on borrowed time. Man, what a rush.........

AsianML

The surest way to be free of any sort of danger is to just be dead.

Jan AMG

Alright I have just bought one S65 for me, one for my wife, one CL65 for my daughter, one CL65 for my son, one S65 for my grandparents and one CL65 for my dog just to make sure they are safe.

jeffreyy

This is one of the most amusing thread's I've seen on this board! What am I thinking, my death trap is nearly 3 years old!

https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif

cjf_moraga

Just an update that my 2008 S600 "deathtrap" is back from the shop after a week. I was quite amazed at what had to be done to repair what I thought was a simple oil leak. It certainly illustrates the complexity of the TT V12. Here are the notes from my service report:

"Inspection revealed oil leak at right side turbo charger. During service found major oil leak at right side turbo charger. Depressurize ABC system, recover AC refrigerant, drain coolant and transmission, R&R front wheels, disconnect both starter and system battery, R&R complete engine with transmission and subframe attached, upon further inspection found left side turbocharger oil supply lines seaping, separate engine from subframe on carrier, R&R both engine mount support arms. Upon inspection found engine mounts with engine saturated with oil causing rubber to swell, replaced engine mounts with engine removed as consequential damage, replaced right side deceleration valve on turbo due to oil saturation. Replaced gaskets and O rings as needed. Reinstall engine on subframe, reinstall powertrain assembly in vehicle. Replaced receiver drier as required. Evacuate and recharge AC system. Bleed ABC system with SDS ("Rodeo" Actuation) refill power steering, correct coolant level, bleed/flush low temp cooling circuit for intercooler system. Replaced locking hardware and micro-encapsulated bolts as required. Performed short test after repairs and cleared codes set during engine removal. No further oil leak at turbochargers."

Thank you standard warranty! Anyway it's all back together and the car drives as well as it did before.

Most importantly I feel properly punished and chastened for not selling it after only 1-year and leasing an S65.

Chris

kgodfrey

Trolls trolling trolls

Jan AMG

Glad you got it sorted out!

i_am_amused

that probably cost more than my funeral this morning

K-A

That's how you gotta do it. The rest of you guys are just cheap b*stards.

I got my CL65's on order.

And if you ask, am I worried about when the 1st of the month/bill time rolls around? I tell you: You can't put a price on Safety. I will deal with it when the time comes.... Figure something out....

Fraser

You guys used all the comedy I was intending to. WSH again shows himself to be a prize peen-****.

bzliteyear

Chris,
Which dealer did you go to? Oakland? Sounds like $20k job if no warranty.
PL

cjf_moraga

Hi PL - Yes it was MB of Oakland.

(Thankfully) My car is still well within standard warranty and I have an extension up to 7-years.

Chris

bzliteyear

Funny...my new(pre-owned) S600 was in there for service last Friday, and the SA kept saying the techs for V12TT's were tied up doing something and everything was backed up...now I know the reason, LOL.
The good news with not having my car is that my wife loved the GLK loaner.
PL